In fact in Greek it can be just read -not translated.

Gift from Kleitos.
(ΔΩΡΟΝ=Gift in Greek)
It seems like people of Sindos were speaking a Greek language before the adoption of attic Greek as official :wink:

In the time of Alexander I (498-454 BC)Macedonia was rather a small (though expanding) and poor kingdom than "the most powerful empire of the time"
Some 40 years after Chalkidean troops captured the capital Pella temporarily after invading the Macedonian Kingdom(!)


(In red the Macedonian Kingdom in 498 BC.Orange in 454 BC)
(The Northern was inhabited by the Paeonians)

What are you trying to prove with that ring? that Macedonians always spoke greek because of that ring from 600bc?

There is also persian, thracian items found in Macedonia too.. Does this really prove anything?

Ur logic is flawed on so many levels... :wink:

There are lots of Greek inscriptions all over the place. I take it based on this feeble logic the ancient Hebrew tribes that used Greek were 'Macedonian'.

Move along Hypaspistes your tricks are starting to get boring. Not only have you not demonstrated that the ancient Macedonians were Greek but you're about 10 light years away from establishing that the Hellenised Vlach and Arvanites were their descendants. It must be nice to be from 'Macedonia' and know that your grandparents were 'greek speakers' but we can do a lot better than that. And we can do it honestly.

Just so you know Hypaspistes won't be bothering us anymore. No more miracle histories -- whereby the Vlach, Slavs and Albanians that speak Greek are 100% pure Greeks and they are also the undisputed descendants of Alexander the Great.

How does a country manage to make an entire population this stupid? It's almost impossible to believe that Modern Greek speakers are living their days away dreaming that they are the descendants of people who lived in the Balkans 2500 years ago. The place is a lunatic asylum.

Bravo MakNews!


atleast u tried...

@MN
it seems that you also move with lightspeed to our position for that racism greek matters.... I like it :wink:

It was time...

Oh I dont know..By actually having "hard" evidence to corroborate the "soft" evidence. You have plenty of soft, but not too much hard. But evidence you do have.

I would like to state here some of my "inventions" on the FACT that the Greeks were not Indo Europeans and that this folk came from somewhere Asia!
Let us take the Greek word "tyrannos". It is not Indo-European, and it is believed to be a loan-word from a language of Asia Minor (probably Lydian). Linguists compare it to Etruscan


http://vernondent.blogspot.com/2006/02/ ... ogies.html

one more evidence (to be read with a great pleasure):

There is clearly a substantial non-Indo-European substrate in Greek, both
in place names and in loan words. This would be a bit surprising if
Indo-European speakers had been in the area since the beginning of the
Neolithic.


http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bi ... an&P=15732

Namely, to just inform you about the LINGUISTLIST: it is a great organization of all linguists around the world who discuss important language matters!! I am a member of the list, and regularly follow the discussions I am interested in!!
So my Grekos: pls be aware that you really came later on the Balkan penninsula and then afirmated yourselves by stealing the alphabet, the mytology, mathematics, etc....

Proof about the stolen mytology:

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~jfarrell/cou ... -myth.html
Pennsylvania UNIVERSITY

This is all so laughable! You all spend an inordinate amount of time and energy trying to show us that ancient Greeks stole everything (poor Socrates, Pythagoras, Plato, Archemides, Hippocrates, Aristotle et al) and that todays Greeks have absolutely no connection to ancient Greeks. As if this somehow validates your ridiculous claims that you are somehow related to the ancient Macedonians.

Why dont you tell us which credible objective scholars relate you people to the ancient Macedonians either culturally or linguistically.

One more thing Maknews: the ancient Hebrews did use ancient Greek, but the Hebrews left us mountains of evidence of their own language. You would expect to find the same mountains of evidence from the ancient Macedonians wouldnt you? Oh, I forgot ... it took an advanced culture and society over 1200 years to codify their own every day language and it took two loley monks to do it for them!!! Come on guys where is the logic?

chris why cant you admit to the fact that ancient greece was apart of an existing world and didnt just invent stuff out of thin air.

the alphabet is just the tip on the iceberg and symbolises how deep the borrowing form other cultures was, as for youre crypto racist allusions to slavs and literacy its pathetic typical of a neo hellene, and given the amounbt of slavic in the neo hellenic gene pool it borders on self hate.

we are trying hard here to put ancient hellas in historical context , you refuse to understand.

from maths to religion much of ancient greece,s knowledge did have a non hellenic basis. your refusal to agknowledge it doesnt change the fact.

@
if it is "all" so breezy, so why don´t you negros poste some prestigious contralinks too

we all know that negros don´t accept neutral assumed uni. proofs, why?

and know jester, just go on and animate your macedonian hegemons

Osiris, do you give the ancient Greeks any credit for anything? No doubt that the ancients borrowed all sorts of cultural elements from their neighbours and previous/concurrent civilizations but what ancient culture didnt? But surely even you can acknowledge the significance of the works of Plato, Aristotle, Archimedes, Hippocrates, Socrates etc etc, no matter how much of it they allegedly borrowed! The rest of the international academic community surely does! But I forgot they are all morons right?

Explain to me why it is a 'crypto racist allusion' (whatever that means) to question the theory put forth in here:

The ancient Macedonian common every day language is related to modern Macedonian. Why did it take at least 1200 years to codify?

Is everyone a racist if they question some of the seemingly mythical theories in here? Please Osiris, show some decency.

@pontian....

what in hell, have you got to do with the ancient negros???


go on jester

Osiris: you call me a racist, look at your compatriot's civilized and educated response above.

Maknews: this language violates the maknews forum rules we all agreed to when we signed up. What will you do about it? Let me guess: nothing.

Dimko: I never claimed the modern Greeks are descended from the ancient Greeks. The only claim I make is that there is a linguistic continuity between the ancient Greeks and Modern Greeks and throughout the ages Greek speaking populations carried the language. There are several credible sources that support this assertion: Dr. Geoffrey Horrocks, proffessor at Cambridge University wrote a book on this topic. Can you provide any similar references that describe the continuity of the Macedonian language from the ancient Macedonians to the modern Macedonians? Can any one of you?

In anticipation
Chris

Read any slavic bible Filipov.

And then answer me a question ... Justinian (of Macedonia), widely regarded as the founder of modern law wrote in what language?

Risto the Great

@pontian
at first you have to accept the banishment, the violation, the resettlement of our ethnic macedonian people in egej-macedonia!!!

if you have accept this, and if you confess oneself guilty, then we could speak on a same level, did you understand me ???

Tome Boshevski and Aristotel Tentov: "Tracing the Script and the Language of the Ancient Macedonians"
It's about the "Rosetta Stone".

You can compare the org. Rosetta text with the translated ancient macedonian, the modern Macedonian and the translation in English.

All is clear and easy to see.

Risto I was refering to the language of the ancient macedonians, not the post Cyril and Methodius language (they codified the language which could then be used for religious texts such as the bible you refer to) So what about the language between Alexander's time and Cyril's time? Which credible unbiased scholar relates the two and connects your modern Macedonian language with that of the before Christ Macedonians?

This is the theory espoused in here is it not? Correct me if I am wrong. I am genuinely interested in learning this.