The greek war for independance didn't even begin in modern "greece". It began in modern Romania with Romanians at the forefront. The term "greek" is nothing more than a term distinguishing religion and class. Again besides the philhellenes even the modern "greek" didn't even know when and where modern "greece's" borders began or ended.

You dont actually believe this, do you? This is ridiculous.

It all goes back to the vlach Rhigas who was the inspiration for the Philiki Eteria. You should know this. Mavrocordatos, Ypsilantis, Caregea, Ghicas, Ducas,etc. these are hellenized Vlachs, semi-vlachs, and Albanians. The first two are modern "greek" heroes for the war of independance. You should know this.

Here's another Hellenized Romanian prince.



And notice the greek lettering around his picture.

You cannot deny this. The war was won on the backs of Albanians, Vlachs, and every race other than hellenes. Bucharest almost became the cradle of hellenism

Ypsilantis was the general in the russian army serving in the Danubian area. I suppose his intent was to stir up some action in order to provoke the Ottomans and subsequently get Russia to save their Orthodox brothers which would have made the Greek War of Independence easier. His plan worked, only 8 years after. I see your point and I guess I didnt look at it that way as in Greece it was a simultaneous revolt that started in many areas. Interesting.

I just find it humorous that modern "greeks" always like to say crap like 'Goce Delchev ran over to Bulgaria many times for help from his "people" '. Yet the greek war for independance didn't even start anywhere near modern "greece" and that the capital of modern "greece" almost became the capital of todays Romania.
The philhellenes and the modern "greeks" are the greatest illusionists of all time. Better than that "greek" Criss Angel

macedonian-history/philiki-eteria-the-greek-secret-society-19th-century-t11042.html

Maybe you'll find this interesting as well.


Modelled after the Philiki Eteria a new secret society, the Philorthodox Society, was formed in 1839. The society aimed at the liberation of Epirus, Thessaly, and Macedonia. It's members were inspired by the prophecies of Agathangelos' restoration of the Orthodox Empire in the East. The Vlach Ioannis Kolettis gave a famous speech that proclaimed that;

The Greek kingdom is not whole of Greece, but a part of it, the smallest and the poorest part of Greece. Autochthon [indigenous] then is not only an inhabitant of the kingdom, but also one from Jannina,Thessaly,Serres,Adrianople,Constantinople,Trebzond,Crete,...in general every inhabitant of land which is Greek "historically" and "ethnically"....The....struggle did not begin in 1821; fighters were and are always those continuing the struggle against the crescent for 400 years


Kolettis' speech is generally considered to be the first open proclamation of the Greek "Great Idea". The English and French Philhellenes gladly added fuel to this fire by distorting truth for the new Greater Greece agenda. And to add to the claims of "Greek continuity" in 1853 Constantinos Paparrigopoulos published a school textbook that reversed the thesis that antiquity ended with the conquest of Ancient Greece by the Macedonians: "The Macedonians", he wrote, "although they are not mentioned in the earlier eras of Greek history, were nevertheless Greeks". The re-evaluation of the Macedonians was directly related to the need to provide the idea of Greek unity with a reference point in the Hellenic past. Modern greek nationalism needed this unity-symbolized by Alexander the Great-in order to provide for an ideological justification of the idea of Hellenic unity in the present. Together with Spiridon Zambelios, Constantinos Paparrigopoulos was the most influential historian in modern Greek history. (Nationalism,Globalization,and Orthodoxy by Roudometof pg 108)

Constantinos Paparrigopoulos was a protege of Ioannis Kolettis, the defender of "nonindigenous Greeks". Paparrigopoulos was an ardent nationalist who was involved in political debates of his day and was the co-founder of the Society for the Propagation of the Greek Letters (1869) a major nationalist organization who's goals were to "strengthen Hellenism in the areas that other....nations attempt to usurp- that is mainly in Bulgaria and Macedonia".(Nationalism,Globalization,and Orthodoxy by Roudometof pg 110)

Now read this carefully. This is important.

The publication of the History Of The Greek Nation over the years 1865 to 1874 was partially financed by state agencies and national societies and provisions were made for copies to be distributed to the municipalities and to Athens University. In 1877 Parliament allocated 6000 drachmas to finance a French translation (to further the agenda) of the book (Histoire de la civilisation hellenique,1878). By 1879 a conference was to be held in Athens with the participation of all Greek associations active outside the kingdom of Greece; Paparrigopoulos masterminded the project of coordinating their efforts to turn his "History" into a foundational text. In 1882 the Historical and Ethnological Society of Greece was founded with the goal of "proving" the unbroken unity and continuity of Hellenism from antiquity to present. Over the course of the next years Paparrigopoulos" narrative became the "official" history of modern "Greece"-and has remained largely unchallenged to this day.(Nationalism,Globalization,and Orthodoxy by Roudometof pg 110)