Dialect comparisons of Macedonian language

tetoac1 · **Joined:** 08 Dec 2006 22:28 **Posts:** 8

I'm interested in seeing and reading the different dialects of the Macedonian language. I thought maybe we can translate a couple of english sentences in our own dialects.

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

Tetovski/or my village (Vratnica) dialect translation
'Koi ti ga-ukral kolata? Trebes da ides u Milicajska stanica i da em kazes sto stanalo. Ne mozem da veruam deka ti gu ukrale kolota u srede dan. Ti trebe da ti odnesem na rabota al nazad doma? Obavezno, kolaj dzi roditeliti tvoi i kazi-em sto sa desilo. Nemoj da sa sekiras ako Tatkoti vika po tebe, on ce bide razbran u sto ti se desilo.'

Sorry, if this was a weak example of what to translate, it was the first thing that popped in my head.

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SUMMARY OF MACEDONIAN DIALECTS
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Western Macedonian;
Ohridsko
Koj Ti je Ukradi Kolata....Trebash da pokazish ke molicijata..... ne veruvaram deka kolata ti je ukradija na pladne. dali ti treba vozilo na rabota ili poposle doma. trebash sto posto da se javis doma i da kazish sto se deci, ne si sekiraj ako tatkoti ti se po deri, ke razberi sho se deci.

Eastern Macedonian;
Strumicko
Koj ti ja utkrade koolta? Kje treba da oosh da a prijavesh uf policiskata stanica. Ne mi se veruva oti ti ja utkradee koolta na sret bel den. Ti treba li prevoz do rabotta ili do doma? Javi im se vednaga na tvojte roditeli da znaat sho ti se sluchi. Ne se sekiri ako tatko ti ti se izdere, kje te razbere.

Northern Macedonian;
Tetovsko
'Koi ti ga-ukral kolata? Trebes da ides u Milicajska stanica i da em kazes sto stanalo. Ne mozem da veruam deka ti gu ukrale kolota u srede dan. Ti trebe da ti odnesem na rabota al nazad doma? Obavezno, kolaj dzi roditeliti tvoi i kazi-em sto sa desilo. Nemoj da sa sekiras ako Tatkoti vika po tebe, on ce bide razbran u sto ti se desilo.

Skopsko
Koj ti ja ukrade/ukra kolata? Kje trebash da odish da ja prijavish vo policiska stanica. Nemozham da veruvam deka ti ja ukrale kolata v sred den. Dali ti treba prevoz do rabota ili doma? Javi im se odma na tvoite roditeli za da znaat shto ti se sluchi. Ne se sekiraj ako tatkoti ke ti svika/se izdere, on/toj ke te razberi/e.

Dracevsko
Abre, ti ja ukrale kolana? odi bre prijavi u policija. Ne veruvam koj umen se nasol da ja ukrade u sret belden. Sakas da te prevrlam doma ili na pabota? Kazi mu na tatkati so sesluci. Ne beri gajle (ne se sekiraj) ako ti vika,ke se izvika pa ke mu projde, galiba ke razbere deka ne si ti kriv!

Southern Macedonian;
Kukushko
Koj ti ga utkrade koolta? Kji treba da oosh da a prijavesh uf policiskata stanica. Ne mi se veruve oti ti ga utkradee koolta na sret bel den. Ti treba li prevoz do rabotta ili do doma? Javi im se vednaga na tvojte roditeli da znaat sho ti se sluchi. Ne se sekiri/kosi ako tatko ti ti se izdere, kji ta razbere.

Lerinsko
Koi tia ukradi kolata? Mora doish da mu kazhish na politsiyata. Ne mozh da vervam ot tia ukradia kolata vo stretden. Dal sakash da te zaisa na rabota ili doma? Mora damu kazhish na tatkoti i maikati sho se stori. Ne se sekirai ako ke ti vika tatkoti, toi ke razberi sho se stori.

Lerinsko
Koi ti go otkradi karro? Treba da odish da se raspravish kai politsjata. Ne vervam ti go otkradia karro na stred den! Ti treba da te krtsam do rabotata ili nazat doma? Treba da se raspravish na majkati i tatkoti za sho stana. Ne beri gajle ako ti vika tatkoti, ke razbere sho se stori.

Central Macedonian;
Bitolsko
Koi ti e ukrade kolata? Treba d'odish i da mu kazhish na Politsiata. Ne mozham da vervam deka ti e ukradia kolata vo srede den! Ti treba prevoz do rabota ili do doma? Obavezno mora da se javish kai roditelite i da mu kazhish sho se sluchi. Ako vika po tebe tatkoti da ne se sekirash, kje razberi sho se sluche.

Bitolsko
Koj ti ja ukrade kolata? Treba da ojs da mu kazis na policijata. Ne mozam da vervam deka ti ja ukradija kolata vo sred den. Treba da te zajsam na rabota ili doma ? Treba na roditelite da mu zvonis da mu kazis so se store. Ne se sekiraj ako ti vika tatko ti, ke razberi so se store.

tetoac1 · **Joined:** 08 Dec 2006 22:28 **Posts:** 8

ok, forget then. based on the number views and no posts this was a stupid idea on my part.

Mod, you can take this thread out. thanks

Paul · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2007 00:42

A bit off the topic. My Macedonian is very bad.

Where is Vratnica ? What is the situation there ? Are there an Albanians in this village ? What is the population ?

paul.

makAus · **Joined:** 15 May 2006 02:56 **Posts:** 309

Zdravo Tetovce,

Uba tema si otvore, ne se sekiraj za toa.

Po Bitolski vaka nekako ke odi

Koj ti ja ukrade kolata? Treba da ojs da mu kazis na policijata. Ne mozam da vervam deka ti ja ukradija kolata vo sred den. Treba da te zajsam na rabota ili doma ? Treba na roditelite da mu zvonis da mu kazis so se store. Ne se sekiraj ako ti vika tatko ti, ke razberi so se store.

A nesto da te prasam. Ja dzirnav stranicata www.vratnicausa.com so si ja spomnal vo eden poranesen post. Interesno mi bese so tie so srpsko samosvest piseja po cisto srpski a ne po Vratnicki. Cudna rabota, ne. Se smetaa Vratnicani, a zborvaa po srpski.

tetoac1 · **Joined:** 08 Dec 2006 22:28 **Posts:** 8

If you look on a map Vratnica is located on Sar mountain right on the other side of Kosovo border, near Kacanik and Strpce. No, there never has been any Albo's in our villages. In the 1960's there used to be around 2000 villagers and over 1000 houses but since majority migrated to the States today there is around 100 people. For a village its the most popular in Tetovo. For the last 3 yrs they've brought in many Serbian and Croatian singers during the summer to sing outside in the village. The village is packed in the summer from all the Vratnicani that go back from the U.S.

MakaAus,

Ovja sto zboriv Srpski na stranicata mlogo se praev kako Srbi. Veli, ako sakas da bides Srbin mozes ipak da zboris Makedonski. A toi se praev pametni bostom. Nekoi u seloto zbori Srpski! Ovja sto znaev Srpski sto sa od Vratnica ziviv u Srbija pa za toa. Toa ti e politika, ima dva braca edan e Srbin drugi Makedonac. E, sea koi e u prav..koi znae?

maknews · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2007 04:52

tetoac1 wrote:

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

Koi tia ukradi kolata? Mora doish da mu kazhish na politsiyata. Ne mozh da vervam ot tia ukradia kolata vo stretden. Dal sakash da te zaisa na rabota ili doma? Mora damu kazhish na tatkoti i maikati sho se stori. Ne se sekirai ako ke ti vika tatkoti, toi ke razberi sho se stori.

Risto the Great · **Joined:** 04 Oct 2005 13:28 **Posts:** 896

I would say the Bitolski version written above is closer to the Lerinsko dialect that I know.
Lerinsi wouldn't say "mora" ... would say "treba".

pozdrav
Risto

Toska · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2007 07:15

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

Koj Ti je Ukradi Kolata....Trebash da pokazish ke molicijata..... ne veruvaram deka kolata ti je ukradija na pladne. dali ti treba vozilo na rabota ili poposle doma. trebash sto posto da se javis doma i da kazish sto se deci, ne si sekiraj ako tatkoti ti se po deri, ke razberi sho se deci.

deki · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2007 09:43

tetoac1 wrote:

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

Umm here is my 'Skopski'? lol although much of the villages around the city seem to have lost their dialects due to the standardised language taking over...

Koj ti ja ukrade/ukra kolata? Kje trebash da odish da ja prijavish vo policiska stanica. Nemozham da veruvam deka ti ja ukrale kolata v sred den. Dali ti treba prevoz do rabota ili doma? Javi im se odma na tvoite roditeli za da znaat shto ti se sluchi. Ne se sekiraj ako tatkoti ke ti svika/se izdere, on/toj ke te razberi/e.

Toska · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2007 11:30

Toska wrote:

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

Koj Ti je Ukradi Kolata....Trebash da pokazish ke molicijata..... ne veruvaram deka kolata ti je ukradija na pladne. dali ti treba vozilo na rabota ili poposle doma. trebash sto posto da se javis doma i da kazish sto se deci, ne si sekiraj ako tatkoti ti se po deri, ke razberi sho se deci.

this is ohridsko, anyone else from ohrid here ???? would you say it the same.

Komita · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2007 13:52

Toska wrote:

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

Koj Ti je Ukradi Kolata....Trebash da pokazish ke molicijata..... ne veruvaram deka kolata ti je ukradija na pladne. dali ti treba vozilo na rabota ili poposle doma. trebash sto posto da se javis doma i da kazish sto se deci, ne si sekiraj ako tatkoti ti se po deri, ke razberi sho se deci.

this is ohridsko, anyone else from ohrid here ???? would you say it the same.

Yes...

tetoac1 · **Joined:** 08 Dec 2006 22:28 **Posts:** 8

I saw the most similarities with Toska and Dejance version. Toska you said you're from Ohrid but where's Dejance from?

Never knew how different the dialects can be..very interesting.

Thanks to all you for participating!!!!

Antioch · **Joined:** 07 Mar 2006 19:04 **Posts:** 178

dejance wrote:

tetoac1 wrote:

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

Umm here is my 'Skopski'? lol although much of the villages around the city seem to have lost their dialects due to the standardised language taking over...

Koj ti ja ukrade/ukra kolata? Kje trebash da odish da ja prijavish vo policiska stanica. Nemozham da veruvam deka ti ja ukrale kolata v sred den. Dali ti treba prevoz do rabota ili doma? Javi im se odma na tvoite roditeli za da znaat shto ti se sluchi. Ne se sekiraj ako tatkoti ke ti svika/se izdere, on/toj ke te razberi/e.

In Skopje we would say exactly like you said Dejance, so I have nothing to add.

GStojanov · **Joined:** 20 Oct 2005 15:32 **Posts:** 537

Strumicki:

Koj ti ja utkrade koolta? Kje treba da oosh da a prijavesh uf policiskata stanica. Ne mi se veruva oti ti ja utkradee koolta na sret bel den. Ti treba li prevoz do rabotta ili do doma? Javi im se vednaga na tvojte roditeli da znaat sho ti se sluchi. Ne se sekiri ako tatko ti ti se izdere, kje te razbere.

Kukushki:

Koj ti ga utkrade koolta? Kji treba da oosh da a prijavesh uf policiskata stanica. Ne mi se veruve oti ti ga utkradee koolta na sret bel den. Ti treba li prevoz do rabotta ili do doma? Javi im se vednaga na tvojte roditeli da znaat sho ti se sluchi. Ne se sekiri/kosi ako tatko ti ti se izdere, kji ta razbere.

deki · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2007 23:34

tetoac1 wrote:

I saw the most similarities with Toska and Dejance version. Toska you said you're from Ohrid but where's Dejance from?

Never knew how different the dialects can be..very interesting.

Thanks to all you for participating!!!!

I'm from Skopje tetoac:)
And thanks to you:)

Antioch wrote:

In Skopje we would say exactly like you said Dejance, so I have nothing to add.

Yeah...you could also say it in other ways too....including some words that i've noticed in other dialects in the topic 'sh(t)o ti se stori, sh(t)o ti se desi(lo), javi im se vednash, sret/d bel den...'

Pesijazal · **Posted:** 07 Feb 2007 15:06

'Who stole your car? You need to go and report it at the Police station. I can't believe they stole your car in the middle of the day! Do you need a ride to work or back home? You should definitely call your parents and let them what happened. Don't worry if your dad will yell at you, he'll understand what happened.'

How old Dracevci would say (at least my drandfather)

" Abre, ti ja ukrale kolana? odi bre prijavi u policija. Ne veruvam koj umen se nasol da ja ukrade u sret belden. Sakas da te prevrlam doma ili na pabota? Kazi mu na tatkati so sesluci. Ne beri gajle (ne se sekiraj) ako ti vika,ke se izvika pa ke mu projde, galiba ke razbere deka ne si ti kriv!

:lol:

tetoac1 · **Joined:** 08 Dec 2006 22:28 **Posts:** 8

This is so interesting to see how many different dialects exist! What does 'galiba' mean and where is Dracevec on the map? Thanks

Aleksandar · **Joined:** 03 Nov 2005 14:07 **Posts:** 57

This is an interesting insight into our language and i will put my head on the block the grammar/spelling may be wrong

LERINSKO MAKEDONSKO EZIK;

Koi ti go otkradi karro? Treba da odish da se raspravish kai politsjata. Ne vervam ti go otkradia karro na stred den! Ti treba da te krtsam do rabotata ili nazat doma? Treba da se raspravish na majkati i tatkoti za sho stana. Ne beri gajle ako ti vika tatkoti, ke razbere sho se stori.

btw kola to me is a muchka driven cart and not auto (zavto). Karro is of course from the english car from carrotsa/carriage etc which was pinched and twisted somewhere by latins from the old maco zahl, to be taken, hence kola, zola/zeola, zejl etc. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Pesijazal · **Posted:** 07 Feb 2007 17:00

tetoac1 wrote:

This is so interesting to see how many different dialects exist! What does 'galiba' mean and where is Dracevec on the map? Thanks

Dracevec is in Ireland now, but hes from Dracevo, 9km south of Skopje.

"Galiba" means "mozebi, bi trealo, ke da e"!

Where is tetoac on the map?
:lol:

tetoac1 · **Joined:** 08 Dec 2006 22:28 **Posts:** 8

Tetovo is right by under Sar planina in the northwest of the country. As nice as this is, I wish we didn't have so many differences between our dialects. It just gives more reason for other neighboring countries to claim we're theirs or we're not a 'true' country.

What is the difference between 'kaj' 'kje' 'ke'? Are they just dialectal differences or not? We don't use any of these in my village so I'm very unfamiliar with them. Strange thing is, the villages that are closer to the downtown of Tetovo actually use 'ke'. I'm guessing many of those villages are a result of refugees from the 1920's of 'northern greece' Macedonia.

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