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Greatest Macedonian Of All Time
Poll ended at 13 Feb 2009 15:53
Aleksander the Great 35%  35%  [ 19 ]
Filip II 12%  12%  [ 7 ]
Cyril i Metodji (brothers will count as one) 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Tsar Samuel 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Goce Delcev 29%  29%  [ 16 ]
Dame Gruev 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nikola Karev 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Jane Sandanski 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Pitu Guli 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Misirkov 12%  12%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 54
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Cento should have been there but thats about it.

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king philip of macedonia was far greater than alexander, and a stepping stone for alexanders successes lets be realistic about facts .


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Daj be stajte dedo Bozin, i ja za nego ke glasam.

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Daj be stajte dedo Bozin, i ja za nego ke glasam.


What about dedo Lexo?

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There is not enough support or recognition for Goce Delcev.

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There's not enough for alot of them, especially Goce or Cyril and Methodius.


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Guys you know that Macedonian forum polls attract between 20-40 responses tops so don't worry, most are only readers.

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Throughout history and time all of these extraordinary people will be remembered and their achievements were all important in their particular period of time. Their achievements have allowed for all aspects of our culture not only to keep existing throughout the ages but also flourish.


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Goce 100%


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I haven't voted yet. Bribe me! :toast

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Goce is creeping up to Alexander !

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I'm with pelagonia on this one, Goce Delcev gets my vote, though Pitu Guli could have easily taken my vote too.

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 Post subject: Re: Maknews 2009 Poll: Greatest Macedonian Of All Time
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goce delchev has been over lionized in my opinion, i am not sure what his great contribution was.

somebody please inform me of his contribution, and how it was more important than the other leaders of vmro.

the idea that alexander did nothing for macedonia surely is a joke, maybe because we did not live in his time and did not experience the great wealth bought back by his soldiers and its impact on macedonias economy we can ignore and belittle it.

alexandar stand alone not only in macedonian but european history, his adventure had a wide ranging and deep impact on the direction of european and middle eastern history .

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osiris wrote:
goce delchev has been over lionized in my opinion, i am not sure what his great contribution was.

somebody please inform me of his contribution, and how it was more important than the other leaders of vmro.

the idea that alexander did nothing for macedonia surely is a joke, maybe because we did not live in his time and did not experience the great wealth bought back by his soldiers and its impact on macedonias economy we can ignore and belittle it.

alexandar stand alone not only in macedonian but european history, his adventure had a wide ranging and deep impact on the direction of european and middle eastern history .



Osiris I am glad you have the balls to say something I think many people on this forum are afraid to admit in public about the over-lionizing of Goce Delcev. He was great there is no doubt. However why does he always stack above the rest of VMRO? I believe Nikola Karev was an extremely relevant hero for Macedonia,,,yet Goce Delcev overshadows him for some odd reason. I guess it is the manner in which Goce Delcev died that maybe strikes a deep chord with people. I don't know. He was great with words so maybe this is why people admired him. I'm not going to deny that he was a Macedonian hero,,,but why is he stacked above the rest of VMRO of that era???


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thanks tm, in my opinion gotses elevation was more the result of the stalinist mindset that permeated all communist thinking in europe after world war 2, where one person the great all knowing leader like stalin like a tsar a god like figure stood above all others.

he was a hero no doubt, but please i am still waiting for some one any one to explain what his deeds were that would distinguish him from the other heoric illindesnki voivodi.

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Aleksandrov (the forum member) had a good analysis of the accomplishments of various VMROvci in a post about a month ago (including Delcev). I'm having trouble finding it though. I can't remember what the topic was, but I said something like 'none of the mainstream VMROvci can even compare with aleksandrov (todor) and sarafov' and he responded with the analysis. The topic may have been about bulgaria, bugarasi, aleksandrov, or delcev...lol...


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 Post subject: Re: Maknews 2009 Poll: Greatest Macedonian Of All Time
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Not many days to go before it becomes official. Alexander is ahead (as predicted :D ) Goce is a close 2nd though. Surprisingly Misirkov is up there too tied for third with Filip.


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What about the worst macedonian?

Branko Crvenkovski is absolutely nr 1!!!!!!!!
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