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 Post subject: Re: Provocations of the Bulgarian historian Bozhidar Dimitrov
PostPosted: 10 Oct 2008 07:45 
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One scientific technique called glotochronology allowes us to determine beyond doubt when one language broke off another.

The line between science and religion I do not see. :bug

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 Post subject: Re: Provocations of the Bulgarian historian Bozhidar Dimitrov
PostPosted: 10 Oct 2008 08:26 
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Oshe nekoj zeleni od Dimitrov:

The "leading" Historian of Bulgaria, Bozhidar Dimitrov is always changing his mind about historical events, as long as it suits his needs. For example, in his book the 10 lies of the Macedonism, he writes:
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"Историската наука одамна утврдила дека античките македонци се племе, кое било дел от грчката етничка заедница и чија територија
до 4 век пр. Хр. се наоѓала во денешна СевернаГрција."

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"The History science have concluded before long time that the Ancient Macedonians were a Greek tribe, and whose territory till the fourth Century BC was encompased in Modern North Greece."

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But the opinion of Bozhidar Dimitrov have evolved. In the Bulgarian news paper Standard from 13th August 2006, Bozhidar Dimitrov have changed the descend of the Ancient Macedonians in DISTINCT NATION who was RELATED to the Thracians and Illyrians, and whose Macedonian State was NEIGHBOR to Greece.

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"Историческата наука отдавна е установила, че античните македонци са племе, сродно на траките и илирите. Царството им се намира в непосредствено съседство с древна Еладa. ...Въпреки че според нас място за спор няма - всеизвестно е, че дори на Александър Велики е отказано да участва в Олимпийските игри - макар и ученик на самия Аристотел, той не е грък."

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"The History science have concluded before long time that the Ancient Macedonians were a tribe, related to the Thracians and Illyrians. Their Kingdom was placed direct to the Ancient Hellas(Greece) ... So forus there are no doubts - it is apperant that that even Alexander the Great was refused to take part in the Olympic games - and though he was descipel of Aristoteles, he was not Greek."

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First of all, it seems that for Bozhidar Dimitrov the History science have for a long time concluded what the Ancient Macedonians were, even though it is something which he is not really certain of it what it really was. In one case he claims that one thing and than he claims the total oposite thing. But this does not prevent him of claiming that all this is already concluded by the History Science.

But someone would say, "hey don't be so harsh on him"!
Well let us say that at this point Bozidar Dimitrov was correcting his past errors related to the Ancient Macedonians. How ever, this man have proven that he does not do anything by chance, and certainly not out of Scientific reasons. His last Book "Macedonia sacred Bulgarian Land" with it's subtitle "Who are the real descendants of Alexander the Great and Roxan" is the last far cry to the Bulgarian state to Bulgarize the Macedonians. In his above mentioned Book now he states that the true descendants of the Ancient Macedonians are in reallity the Tatar Asparuch and Krum, the so called Proto- Bulgarians who are very little blood related to the Modern Bulgarians.

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 Post subject: Re: Provocations of the Bulgarian historian Bozhidar Dimitrov
PostPosted: 10 Oct 2008 08:30 
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What really bothers me is the silence of the Macedonian Government about such a stuff.

If I would have to say something, I would slap the Greeks with this stupid Bulgarian stuff in a face, when ever Greeks make complaint about for example the Name of the the Airport or about iredentism etc.

When Greeks open their mouth accusing as of iredentism, I point them out Dimitrov and his Works, and say what about that one, lets do something about it, or you have double standards.

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 Post subject: Re: Provocations of the Bulgarian historian Bozhidar Dimitrov
PostPosted: 10 Oct 2008 13:24 
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mk wrote:
What really bothers me is the silence of the Macedonian Government about such a stuff.


I disagree, the Macedonian Government should not give that Tatar the time of day. If it did, it would give him legitimacy. But the Macedonian Government should fund one or two scholars to take him on and document thoroughly Dimitrov's baloney.

As for your arguing with the Greeks by using Dimitrov, be aware that he is a function of the Greek policies against Macedonia. But pointing to double standards is almost always a good thing.

I always say, let's beat him/them scientifically. :D

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