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 Post subject: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 17 Mar 2009 22:06 
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Here's something I stumbled upon which made a ton of sense as to why the EU is a racist organization hellbent on consuming all of Europe and distorting history to make up a new society. New World Order? Conspiracy? You be the judge.

(The text is pages 59-61)

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Do some of you think it is a coincidence that Macedonia is being rejected the right to call itself Macedonia and its people Macedonians? Do any of you think that a bunch of "slavs" fits the EU mold of who THEY think the Macedonians were and ought to be? Is it a wonder why Macedonian minorities in modern "greece" and Bulgaria are denied basic human rights without the EU even slapping these 2 terrorist states wrists? If you guys think that I'm propagating a lie (I know the modern "greeks" do) then all you have to do is your own research. I offer up what this text states through my own research here macedonian-history/propaganda-politicized-use-of-hellenism-t13138.html

Macedonia is not meant to gain recognition in this vile organization. It doesn't fit the mold that these Neo-Europeans are trying to create.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU & the re-writing of history
PostPosted: 17 Mar 2009 22:18 
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In North America, Europeanized versions of history have been discredited.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU & the re-writing of history
PostPosted: 17 Mar 2009 23:28 
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Thankyou TM. I for one have always believed the Europeans seek to wipe the Macedonians of the map and Europena culture hates Slavdom and Orthdoxy it threatens there Cultural Harmogony not farken doubt.

Maknews u are forever moaning about the EU - we all are please place this thread as a permanant sticky and link on the Home page.

I look every day at the real possiblity of our leaders today talking up the value of comprimise and Greece just waiting it out it scares me and angers me that our Leaders will change our god given name we all have become accepting of such a plight I couldn't imagine explaining this to an outsider.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2009 12:46 
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Excellent find TM. Thanks for posting this.

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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2009 21:32 
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No problem Megaman. We as a whole (including our Diaspora organizations) need to realize the ugly truth. The EU is not for Macedonia or the Macedonians. It has disrespected Macedonia and wishes to further propagate a smokescreen on minority issues and issues concerning the truth in history.

We have to educate ourselves and question everything. I don't expect everyone to read what I post without questioning every angle. I pray to God you guys do. This way YOU come to your own conclusions. Not one me or someone else is giving you. William Cooper once said: Read everything, Listen to everybody, Don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
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TrueMacedonian wrote:
William Cooper once said: Read everything, Listen to everybody, Don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research.
Nice quote, but that guy was completely nuts! Even a lot of his fellow UFO believers thought he was crazy.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
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Yes he was called nuts. He even spoke of UFO's and aliens (which he later said was bogus). However his quote is golden.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2009 04:25 
Everything Europe holds important, enlightened and progressive about itself "it owes" to the Greeks, even though ancient Greece was lost and its inhabitants exterminated.

This idea that Europe (hence, Modern Greece) owes everything it holds in highest esteem about itself, its history, and culture to its ideas (no one elses), of the Greeks, should sound the warning bells that Macedonia, isn't at war with Greece, but with Europe; and that the Macedonians are not fighting a despotic tinpot regime in Modern Greece, the Macedonians are fighting "an idea" that has a long tradition and genesis (hundreds of years), in Europe.

As Risto Stefov pointed out in his article "The Curse of Hellenism", Europe needed to create a physical space in order to honor the contributions of the ancient Greeks, to European enlightenment, thought, science ...just about everything.

The Macedonians must understand that Europe won't abandon its traditions, and therefore won't abandon Modern Greece, no matter how fked up the New Greeks are, or get.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
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Paul wrote:
Everything Europe holds important, enlightened and progressive about itself "it owes" to the Greeks, even though ancient Greece was lost and its inhabitants exterminated.

This idea that Europe (hence, Modern Greece) owes everything it holds in highest esteem about itself, its history, and culture to its ideas (no one elses), of the Greeks, should sound the warning bells that Macedonia, isn't at war with Greece, but with Europe; and that the Macedonians are not fighting a despotic tinpot regime in Modern Greece, the Macedonians are fighting "an idea" that has a long tradition (hundreds of years), in Europe.

The Macedonians should be attacking the European tradition, and Modern Greece as its fkn love child.



This is in Vasil Bogov's book. Bogov was right in so many ways. The western establishment is determined to re-create a history that it sees fit. Lord Byron is re-born.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2009 04:33 
He was T.M.

He opened up some new possibilities. I was amazed to read that the Sultan "handed over" Macedonian Churches to the Greek Patriarch, and amazed that the presence of a Greek priest in an old Macedonian Church, for the first time ever in the history of that Church, is used as a pretext to then declare the people of its diocese as "Greeks".

This is how they fudged the figures.

But this method of colonizing Macedonia has its origins in Europe - in "the idea" that they can make Greeks from anything, or anyone.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU & the re-writing of history
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..."Thankyou TM. I for one have always believed the Europeans seek to wipe the Macedonians of the map and Europena culture hates Slavdom and Orthdoxy it threatens there Cultural Harmogony not farken doubt".

My problem is why would EU do that? Just to destroy us?! You neither have logic nor proof!


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Thankyou TM. I for one have always believed the Europeans seek to wipe the Macedonians of the map and Europena culture hates Slavdom and Orthdoxy it threatens there Cultural Harmogony not farken doubt.

Maknews u are forever moaning about the EU - we all are please place this thread as a permanant sticky and link on the Home page.

I look every day at the real possiblity of our leaders today talking up the value of comprimise and Greece just waiting it out it scares me and angers me that our Leaders will change our god given name we all have become accepting of such a plight I couldn't imagine explaining this to an outsider.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2009 00:49 
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TrueMacedonian wrote:
Paul wrote:
Everything Europe holds important, enlightened and progressive about itself "it owes" to the Greeks, even though ancient Greece was lost and its inhabitants exterminated.

This idea that Europe (hence, Modern Greece) owes everything it holds in highest esteem about itself, its history, and culture to its ideas (no one elses), of the Greeks, should sound the warning bells that Macedonia, isn't at war with Greece, but with Europe; and that the Macedonians are not fighting a despotic tinpot regime in Modern Greece, the Macedonians are fighting "an idea" that has a long tradition (hundreds of years), in Europe.

The Macedonians should be attacking the European tradition, and Modern Greece as its fkn love child.


This is an absolute amd unbelievable nonsense! Again, there is no logic!


This is in Vasil Bogov's book. Bogov was right in so many ways. The western establishment is determined to re-create a history that it sees fit. Lord Byron is re-born.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2009 01:19 
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Stupido where don't you find the logic? I posted a link for my reasoning behind this on the first post itself. You don't have to believe it.


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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2009 01:43 
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Here's an interesting article on re-writing history. http://www.wiersma.pvda.nl/nieuwsbericht/449

SOCIALISTS URGE EU TO ACT AGAINST REWRITING OF HISTORY
21 April 2008

Socialist Euro MPs will tonight condemn party political interpretations of European history and call on the European Commission and Council to promote a full debate on the issue.

The move will come during a Strasbourg debate on crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes committed by totalitarian regimes.

Socialist vice-president Jan Marinus Wiersma, who will be the Group's opening speaker, said: "We want a proper debate on the history of Europe, including some of the terrible episodes. We want to avoid party political interpretation of history. This often fuels extreme and exclusive nationalism."

Mr Wiersma, who is a historian by profession, added: "The abuse of history can be used to promote forgetfulness, for example by denying the Holocaust or covering up crimes by totalitarian regimes.

"There is always the danger of selectivity when criteria are applied to one phenomenon but not to another.

"We want the Commission and Council to promote a proper debate fed by information that is non-partisan and scientific in character. We should not forget the crimes committed and we should formulate lessons to be learned. But we should not abuse history."

Concern about the proper interpretation of history is growing in the run-up to the 40th anniversary of the Prague Spring, the commemoration of Kristallnacht in November 1938 and the current debate about the artificial famine in Ukraine during the 1930s.

An oral question tabled by Socialist Euro MPs for tonight's debate asks: "How will the Commission ensure that the debate focuses on scientific criteria and will not fall victim to political exploitation in the context of increasing nationalism and populism?"

The oral question was tabled by eight MEPs including Socialist leader Martin Schulz, Mr Wiersma, group vice-president Hannes Swoboda, Helmut Kuhne of Germany, Miguel Angel Martinez of Spain, Justas Vincas Paleckis of Lithuania, Jozef Pinior of Poland and Libor Roucek of the Czech Republic.



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 Post subject: Re: The EU and the Re-Writing of History
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Another interesting article http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3734

European Union Rewrites History
From the desk of Elaib Harvey on Thu, 2009-01-08 11:03

The European Union is slowly trying to rewrite history to its own benefit. We have the President of the Parliament's own little vanity project, the House of European History, which is causing controversy, and we have the Euro Clio project, with its slightly sinister subset Connecting Europe.

According to Euro Clio

Education policies and regulations are commonly decided by national governments. In history this results in a focus that is very nationally oriented. Research by EUROCLIO confirms that the national dimension in history education is overrepresented, whereas the regional, European and international dimensions are underrepresented.
The disadvantage of a dominantly national approach is a distortion in historical events. The EUROCLIO Annual Meetings have always been a way to increase the European Dimension.
History educators from all over Europe have addressed a variety of topics and good practice that broadened their perspectives. Furthermore, EUROCLIO uses of trainers from a variety of European countries and beyond it all its project work. This transnational cooperation also increases the European dimension of history education and reduces the risk of a national bias in the developed material.


You get the idea.

Flicking through the "Connecting Europe Through History" booklet one can find on page 4 a picture of the storming of the Bastille. The caption reads:

Storming the Bastille: 1789 was a turning point in establishing human rights in Europe

Well I suppose you could say that. It was the precursor to all the ghastly ideological regime's who have murdered millions in the name of ideology. The "Quartering of the Vendee" was the first time that a form of genocide was practiced against a largely civilian population because they rejected a political ideology. Estimates of the dead range from 120,000 to 600,000.

Yes they are right. I suppose it did usher in a new era of human rights in Europe.

However, my favourite European history project is the Franco-German textbook, whose lead author Professor Marcel Spisser – an Alsatian Frenchman – spoke at a conference in Brussels last Tuesday about the troubles they had getting the academics to agree...

There was a big clash at the first meeting [of the editorial team of academics] a content problem. Was it about the Versailles Treaty or international relations post 1945?
No it wasn't about that at all, it was about the barbarian invasions.
"Barbarians – Are you calling the Germans Barbarians!!!".

It appears that in Germany the waves of Goths, Visigoths, Vandals and not least Huns are referred to as 'the movement of peoples' rather than 'the barbarian invasions.'


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