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Andreas Syggros wrote:
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And she is back to fight her own fight! good on you girl


Anderson,

You saw her post. Needless to say I have no obligation to apologize.

And I am not appealing to Mr. Maknews to complaint. I expect such behavior from men (many Greeks do the same to Macs in Greek Forums) but not from a woman.


Only a gutless piece of shit would say such a thing!


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struja wrote:
Andreas Syggros wrote:
Anderson wrote:
And she is back to fight her own fight! good on you girl


Anderson,

You saw her post. Needless to say I have no obligation to apologize.

And I am not appealing to Mr. Maknews to complaint. I expect such behavior from men (many Greeks do the same to Macs in Greek Forums) but not from a woman.


Only a gutless piece of shit would say such a thing!

The shit comes out of a man, what a pity that this NONEXISTING creature not even an animal cause the animals are dear to me, does not even deserve to be called "shit":)))))))))))

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struja wrote:
Andreas Syggros wrote:
Anderson wrote:
And she is back to fight her own fight! good on you girl


Anderson,

You saw her post. Needless to say I have no obligation to apologize.

And I am not appealing to Mr. Maknews to complaint. I expect such behavior from men (many Greeks do the same to Macs in Greek Forums) but not from a woman.


Only a gutless piece of shit would say such a thing!

The shit comes out of a man, what a pity that this NONEXISTING creature not even an animal cause the animals are dear to me, does not even deserve to be called "shit":))))))))))) ARROGANT ASSWHOLE

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Andreas Syggros wrote:
#2.- The Slavic speakers WERE NOT ONE COMPACT nationality (please see above).
Therefore in Macedonia existed -4- big national groups (I grant you numerical superiority, so, doing from the big to the small, there were
Turks, Macedonians, Bulgarians, Greeks) and some smaller (Vlachs, Jews, Arvanites, foreigners).
This "Macedonian Salad" was not able to form a nation.


You see, you miss a vital point, THE PROPAGANDA WAR, that was unleashed on the Macedonian people from approx. 1850s and forward, with no help from any great power and propaganda infesting the minds of the weak, WE Macedonians of today are a living evidance that you can not change people with the help of propaganda.

If the same scenario was to be thrown at Greece when it was about to form its nation in the early 19th century, do you honestly think we would have a Greece with the size it has today? With no help from the outside.....


You keep living in your bubble it is a safe haven for you... the saying "you can't teach an old dog to sit" suits you like a glove my obstinate fiend.

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Ade re *rude word*, bet you anything your kids call you a *rude word* everyday. Dont you live in Greece *rude word*? Calling one a *rude word* is like calling one buddy.


I observe that, when nervous, you use polished manners !

A SMALL LECTURE ON '*rude word*'

a) For guys less than 20 years old
This word is used in vocative "Re *rude word*" between youngsters and highschool students. It is used when you make some blunder or careless move.
When used between friends, it is not an insult.
But when a stranger shouts to you "Where the hell are you going, re *rude word* ?", because you made a wrong turn with your car, this is actually an insult.

b) For grown up people
Nobody calls fis friend "re *rude word*". It is used to a very close friend when he makes a blunder as followes
"Kala, *rude word* eisai ? Why you did that ?"
"Well, are you *rude word* ? Why you did that ?"

c) Between strangers, irrespective of age
It is always an insult.

d) Between women
Only women of lower social status use this word.
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The only explanation for CMBMN is ignorance of Greek language and Greek customs.

But generally speaking, her literary style towards me is clearly provocative.

As for you, you are clearly insulting me. I expect such behavior from men(*), but not from women.

(*)PS : Greeks are worse than you when adressing to Macedonians. So I understand you. But do not class me in this category. I never use base language to ANYBODY.
Thanks for the explanation *rude word*, but i seen things a little different last time i was in Greece. Everyone was a *rude word* espesially amongst the young. *rude word* was used more than any other word never did i see anyone get angry because of it. The greeks even had a top hit called *rude word* ise, remember that one Andrea? No need for you to get offended *rude word*..


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gornichvo wrote:
Andreas Syggros wrote:
gornichvo wrote:
Ade re *rude word*, bet you anything your kids call you a *rude word* everyday. Dont you live in Greece *rude word*? Calling one a *rude word* is like calling one buddy.


I observe that, when nervous, you use polished manners !

A SMALL LECTURE ON '*rude word*'

a) For guys less than 20 years old
This word is used in vocative "Re *rude word*" between youngsters and highschool students. It is used when you make some blunder or careless move.
When used between friends, it is not an insult.
But when a stranger shouts to you "Where the hell are you going, re *rude word* ?", because you made a wrong turn with

your car, this is actually an insult.

b) For grown up people
Nobody calls fis friend "re *rude word*". It is used to a very close friend when he makes a blunder as followes
"Kala, *rude word* eisai ? Why you did that ?"
"Well, are you *rude word* ? Why you did that ?"

c) Between strangers, irrespective of age
It is always an insult.

d) Between women
Only women of lower social status use this word.
***************************************************

The only explanation for CMBMN is ignorance of Greek language and Greek customs.

But generally speaking, her literary style towards me is clearly provocative.

As for you, you are clearly insulting me. I expect such behavior from men(*), but not from women.

(*)PS : Greeks are worse than you when adressing to Macedonians. So I understand you. But do not class me in this category. I never use base language to ANYBODY.
Thanks for the explanation *rude word*, but i seen things a little different last time i was in Greece. Everyone was a *rude word* espesially amongst the young. *rude word* was used more than any other word never did i see anyone get angry because of it. The greeks even had a top hit called *rude word* ise, remember that one Andrea? No need for you to get offended *rude word*..


exactly!!! And no need to call in return a proud and honest Macedonian girl "a prostitute"!
So, if you want to stay here and if you want me to tolerate your presence in a Macedonian forum,and if you want me to leave you alone YOU BETTER come down, forget for a moment your Greek arrogance and deeply apologize!!!! Otherwise, you know what I am capable of............

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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2007 13:15 
Jordan Piperkata wrote:
#1.-You see, you miss a vital point, THE PROPAGANDA WAR, that was unleashed on the Macedonian people from approx. 1850s and forward, with no help from any great power and propaganda infesting the minds of the weak, WE Macedonians of today are a living evidance that you can not change people with the help of propaganda.

#2.-If the same scenario was to be thrown at Greece when it was about to form its nation in the early 19th century, do you honestly think we would have a Greece with the size it has today? With no help from the outside.....


#1.-
I understand.
Greek propaganda in Macedonia began very late, at the end of the 19th century. Untill then Greece had internal problems and was preooccupied with the Cretan issue.
Bulgarian Propaganda sure had been intense, helped by the Russians.
Serbian, I do not know.
If by that propaganda simple, peaceful illiterate people were decieved to become Bulgarians or Serbians, that, dear Jordan, I honestly do not know.
I just know the statistics from the end of 19th cent upwards.

#2. Greece had revolted against the Turks in the 1770's. Greeks had a lot of educational institutions, financed by rich Greeks, from the 1600's.
Nevertheless, NO NATION under the Ottoman Empire could liberate itself alone.
Serbia revolted, and was the first to become autonomous, thanks to Russian aid.
Greece revolted, and was made a free State thanks to combined English-French-Russian aid.
Bulgaria thanks to Russian invasion that reached Istanbul.

I think I have written all that many times, Jordan.


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Yet somehow we Macedonians managed to do it alone... albeit it lasted for only 10 days.

Unfortunately, nobody helped the Macedonians, and we didn't even get those guns and ammunition we were promised from Italy, had we been able to afford to finance a war (buying of weapons) more so than we did, today would be very different


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