Just like the front cover of the book states, "Know you not that the value of what is said depends not upon the speaker, but upon the listener?" (By the way this book was published in 1913 when propaganda in Macedonia was peaked.)
As you read through this book you realize that it is mired in racist ideological diatribe that the modern "greek" government has embedded in the population of not just modern "greece" but most of the world. Like the Nazis once said; If you tell a lie long and loud enough, especially a big lie, people will eventually start to believe it.

Here is a person who lived in Macedonia with the supposed "greeks", Vlachs, Albanians, Turks, and the supposed Bulgarian Macedonians. Well.....as illustrated in the pages I posted on here these people do not really speak Bulgarian but a Macedonian Dialect. And that the author, George Demetrius, states "we called them Bulgarian".

Here's Krste Misirkov's statement at the time of why the Macedonians were labelled "bulgarians"-

We saw in the greeks spiritual masters and religious leaders. We had the same attitude towards them as we had towards the Turks. The greeks were exploiting us in the church and wanted under the Turk rullership to achieve their goal which they were not able to do before their rule. To assimilate us, they were avoiding to call us with our national name.

They were calling us Risyani (Christians), and we approved: of course brother, we are Risyani, what else should we be! When they got angry at us, and they would call us stubborn Bulgarians: we would say: it is true, we are Risyani, but we are not that educated, as the greeks! Our heads do not understand; we are Bulgarians.

With other word, in Turkish time we were approving and agreeing with everything that the Turks and the Greeks were telling us.

But the Turks, with designating us: Rayati and Giuri, they did not see us as people of certain Nationality, but with relation to them as a masters and people of orthodox religion.

With same respect we were using this name's between us. That means, that the Turks were not recongnizing Nations in their country. So we were doing the same.

The Greeks did not distinguish between the slavic Nations and all the Slavic people, specially the part fo them, who was making the troubles for them during the Turkish rule and were under their Jurisdiction (church), they were hating them and calling them with the name "Bulgarian" wich for tham was dispicable name.

This name was expressing the Greek detest, and not the honor of the bulgarians, that's why it's epithet was "hondrokefalos".

Translated from: http://www.misirkov.org/sostauala.htm


The brainwashed George Demetrius, whatever his true background may be, displayed the contradiction relevant even in todays society.

I wonder where Georgie the Greek learned to speak the Macedonian "dialect"?

Too bad he couldn't have reflected on that a little in his writings. I'll bet his family was speaking Macedonian before Tito's great-grandfather was born and much longer than they spoke they Greek "tongue".

Your work is superb, True Macedonian.

He speaks Turkish, Greek and the 'Macedonian dialect' !

What does Macedonian dialect mean and why not Greek dialect, etc. Another fool trying to espouse disturbing propaganda??? Moreover, he is trying to create a scenario that Southern Macedonian during Ottoman Rule (when Macedonian was a united entity) was a Greek land, sorry but this is clearly propaganda.

Interesting choice of words and phrases...

Why is there a 'bulgarian Macedonian' but no 'Turkish Macedonian' or 'greek Macedonian'...why does the 'bulgarian Macedonian' description come with the added qualifier of 'Slav'...?

and as several others have already mentioned...'Macedonian dialect'...instead of language.

I wonder if Boy George's account was deliberately tainted or some 'creative editing' has since been employed to tie up some loose ends, so to speak...???

He's a g'rkomanche. The fact that he can speak Macedonian and Greek and doesn't mention Vlach gives it away.

BTW, he spoke Turkish because these were the overlords of Macedonia, they were the power at the time. He spoke Greek because he was indoctrinated into it - that's why he refers to Greek as his "tongue" and Macedonian as a "dialect" - this was the Greek propaganda, to negate our mother tongue.

But where oh where did he learn how to speak Macedonian? Certainly not from Tito or roaving bands of Bulgarians mercenaries - as many g'rkoman idiots claim.

I'll bet he learned it from his own mother's mouth.

Definately from his mother or immediate family...unless ofcourse the numbers of Macedonian speakers were so numerous that Boy George picked it up from his childhood friends...either way it negates the significance of the Macedonian ethnic population throughout the region

But if he wasn't Macedonian and he picked it up from his friends, he would also have mentioned the language of his real ethnic heritage, which he omits. All he mentions is the new Greekness, and we all know "Greeks" don't speak Makedonski. He's a g'rkomanche.

Here's the beginning of the book everyone. Does this sound like modern "greeks" in the 21st century or what?





"greek" in customs,thought,blah blah blah

And who created these supposed customs and culture? http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/94497


This book is full of propaganda. The point is this young "greek boy" recognized that the people they were calling 'bulgarians' spoke a different language from them.

Between Olympus and Pella puts him the Ber, Negush region.

If this is prior to the 1920s then he's not a Turkish prosfyga. He can't be Vlach as the Vlach at the time still retained their mother tongue.

He could possibly be one of the Christian transplants from Albania, they would have moved into the area in the 1800s, and they were extremely self-loathing about their Albanian heritage. But -- that doesn't explain the fact that he speaks Macedonian - does it.

My money is on g'rkomanche. And I'll bet his entire family history from that time onward has been falsified and his descendants have no idea who they were.

when i was a boy in 1956 we escaped from the then yugoslavia to greece and found all the people we encountered there speaking macedonian, incuding many prsofigi from turkey

when i was a boy in attika in 1956 to 1958 i heard villagers speaking albanian as their native language in the so called heartland of greece.

when i was a boy in australia i encountered many relatives who claimed they were greek but couldnt speak a word of greek, to this day they cannot explain why they are ignorant of their self declared native tongue.

when i was an adult in athens i learned that albanians were the founders of modern greece, and that their immediate decendents were in complete denial of the real history of their families and their nation.

so macedonians and albanians who want to be greeks are really greeks, while macedonians who want to be macedonians are really slavs,(whatever that means) is this logical or is it fascist bullshit.

Osiris oh God of wonder and all things that suck for the imposter Hellenes, you hit the nail on the head in your trademark way of hitting it.

I was wondering if we could get one of our southern neighbors to comment on this topic. Seeing as it generated over 400 views I imagine that one of you saw this. What are your reactions?

Have the book, haven't read it yet.

Vigla I reckon you'd hoard anything that will make you a better grkoman or do you find comfort in such publications knowing you're not alone in your madness...a sort of deluded reminder to yourself that you're not the dickhead that the other half of the family know.

I can just picture your dusty little bookshelf full of grkoman classics just incase a real 'greek' was to ever enter the inner sanctum of grkoman central, pretenders and the lost like you are forever trying to prove yourselves worthy of the newly bestowed title 'greek'...

When I was a boy in greece

It was in grade four the start of a new school year and a new teacher.
Her name was Hresula, her reputation was well known to all of the students for her mean personality.
No one dared to step out of line in her classroom or in the schoolyard if she was around and to make matters even worse she always carried a stick especially in the schoolyard.
The activity at the schoolyard was a place where we had the freedom as children to speak the Macedonian language, but always looking over our shoulders for her.
In fear of being heard by teachers especially Hresula.
Hresula went a little bit further, well into the third week in the classroom she wrote on the blackboard in big bold letters “THAT GYPSY LANGUAGE SHALL NOT BE SPOKEN” in greek of course. She wanted that statement to stay on the board all year but one day I wiped it off. That was the biggest mistake I ever made.
She demanded that the person who wiped it off raise his hand or admit to it.
Of course, like children everybody was looking at me, so I had no choice but to confess that it was me who wiped it off. When she was finished with me in front of the classroom my hands were black and blue this way and that way front and back.
For two weeks, I could not even hold a pencil. My parents could not even say anything about it to the principal or anyone else.
That is one example of the forced assimilation and helenization process in greece.

Wow, all that paranoid/fantasy speculation from only one line! Is your life really so dull that you have to be fascinated with mine?

Actually, that book was given to me as part of a small collection from a close relative who identifies as an ethnic Macedonian. His kids couldn't care less about this stuff so he offered them to me.

The problem with these books is that once you've read a few of them (whether pro-Macedonian, pro-Greek or anything else), they all blend into one another. No point in reading the rest.

You want to buy it, Peter? I'll give you a good deal.

What kind of person refers to a child's mother tongue as that "gypsy language" and beats them for having some dignity.

This story has been repeated millions of times in so many different ways - and yet we're still here - and we're not going away.

Why is it so hard to accept he was Greek?Didn't he state clearly "my own Greek tongue" ?As for his knowledge of Macedonian,he says two times,in pages 131 and 132 that he visited many Macedonian villages.Btw,it's a very nice book,i downloaded it and read some pages.


I don't think his mother was a "brainwashed Macedonian" as you imply


I don't think "brainwashed Macedonians" have customs that derive from ancient Greece

Viggy what selo are u from?

His true ethnic background is definitely disputible. Propaganda in Macedonia was peaked during this time. Look at what he says of the Vlachs;




"partly of 'greek' blood". N.G.L. Hammond states in his book Invasions and Migrations that modern "greek" propaganda only made this unsubstantiated claim.

Let's not forget who else roamed around Macedonia;




As for 'Charon' and 'greek legends' Rigas Velenstinlis, who was born in Macedonia, who happened to be a Vlach who's real name is Antonis Kyriazis, wrote of Charon in his 'Hymns' for "greece" in which he states in his constitution that any "christain can be a greek". So legends could have been passed through the likes of Hellenized Vlachs and or philhellenes as stated by William St.Clair in his book That Greece Might Still Be Free.