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 Post subject: Re: Macedonians in greece (video)
PostPosted: 04 May 2008 03:35 
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Ed, the P'tele or Patele reference is for the song you mentioned. It talks about Patele.

Ekshi-Su is Xeno Nero or Kisela Voda.

As for the so-called Bulgarian-ness of the residents of Ekshi-Su, that's just a dream.


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 Post subject: Re: Macedonians in greece (video)
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ptele and ekshi shu are different villages. :wave[quote][/quote]

Thanks Bratchko, the Ptele threw me off, it is Patele = Agios Pantelemion on Lake Vegoritis.
Nice Selo!!! A coworker of mine is married to a girl from there.

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 Post subject: Re: Macedonians in greece (video)
PostPosted: 04 May 2008 03:45 
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maknews wrote:
Ed, the P'tele or Patele reference is for the song you mentioned. It talks about Patele.

Ekshi-Su is Xeno Nero or Kisela Voda.

As for the so-called Bulgarian-ness of the residents of Ekshi-Su, that's just a dream.


maknews, there is also another Patele (Pondokerasia) and it is northeast of Kilkis.
I have a feeling the song is referring to that Patele.
Who are the Prokleti and why are they Shpioni??

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 Post subject: Re: Macedonians in greece (video)
PostPosted: 04 May 2008 16:12 
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maknews wrote:
Suhin wrote:
And every time this happens (it happened every time the statue was set) the villagers said: "The wind blowed against last night". Finally those that placed the statue have placed iron rods inside it to be more difficult to destroy it. It ended up in the bottom of the (beautiful) lake of Ostrovo. :clap:

Maybe they should put up a statue that floats. It will be easier to find for next time. ;)


The state of this affair back in 2000 was described in very graphic detail by the IOS team:
http://www.iospress.gr/ios2000/ios20001126a.htm
I tried a google translation but I don't trust it as it translated Ξινό Νερό to Nimfeo!!!
As for Patele there is another article from IOS back from 1998 when the residents of the village were quarrelling in front of TV cameras with the Pontian inhabitants of the neighboring village Vegora: http://www.iospress.gr/ios1998/ios19980315a.htm
The comical part was that the Patele residents were flying Greek flags and the Vegora ones Paleologos era Byzantine ones, each claiming to be the true "patriot" and accusing the other of being Turkish or Bulgarian respectively.
The article mentions in passing that the president of Patele at the time (with PASOK) was a relative of Andreja Chipov, the former KKE general secretary and one of the Akronafplia 27.
The sad part is that despite everything both Ekshi-Su and Patele do not vote en masse for Vinozhito - it's not as if the Greeks don't know who lives there and how they feel...


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 Post subject: Re: Macedonians in greece (video)
PostPosted: 04 May 2008 17:53 
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Him being a Greek civil servant, i assure you he is scratching his balls all day long. If he has double occupation, i dont know...

He's good at his work, but he also has another occupation, as you say. He's trying to help Greece become a democratic country -- and that's a very hard job.


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