i've been meaning to post this for awhile now.......






So the young and educated want to leave, kinda of a bad investment in creating a skilled competitive workforce for ROM

Source:
http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php?uniquenumber=96727

It is not just the educated young that want to leave, but all young that don't have an uncle high up in a public administration job. Why is this news? For the last decade I have been saying that any young and street wise kid, highly educated or not, has already left Eastern Macedonia, only the ones that couldn't find way are stuck there. Very rare are the ones that actually chose or want to stay.

I wonder what the rom govt is doing to really create opportunities in macedonia.Obviously it is not delivering in the opportunity steaks that's why people are leaving in droves.Perhaps there is a saying gruevski & co need to plan to creat opportunities for young people & not to lose them overseas.

Ofcourse, people leave to find better opportunities. But the worst part is, people leave Macedonia saying "i have a dental degree, I won't work in a stupid Macedonian factory!" then they come to the USA/Australia and work in a dirty factory for 40 years.

It's the Macedonian mentality - everything is better on the outside. The government is doing the right thing with it's strategy to strengthen the Macedonian spirit once again, and make people WANT to live in their fatherland and make it better. Running away won't fix it for you, or your future generations. People have to realize, you can't just expect governments to fix everything. If you want a better life for your family, work 2 jobs, work 3 jobs.. people do it in the West. Open your own business, YOU need to help make things better!!

Oh yeah! Love the advice! Cheers for that. I like to see you try, in Macedonia, from nothing, and then come back to give the advice.

When I was a teen my parents got a market stall after my father became redundant(for knowing too much). I worked with him after school and sometimes he signed me off school as sick just so I can work more. Endless journeys to Bit(shit) pazar and to Bulgaria for stock. I like to see you cross the border at Delcevo some 15 years ago. I would rather chew my right arm off than ever have to do that again! Seriously, I would. We worked for the bare existence. Try getting attacked at bit pazar, in the middle of the day, police and inspection officers on every corner, yet the shipos put a knife to your throat and take all the money you have on you. What will the police do? Fuck all! That's what.

As 18 years old girl I worked 2 jobs, slept 4 hours, worked 20 hours. For a year. You know what I got for it? No social life, bare exsistence and the price of a return ticket to England and thank shitty god I didn't book the return journey.

Go and have your own business Mr Businessman in Kocani. Once you start making something you will be soon noticed and visited from the reketari led by V. B. and his son. Do you know what the police does about them? Fuck all, that's what! Ќути ма!

You don't have enough to eat but must pay taxes on taxes, you are pressed by stupid laws and pay taxes with no income whatsoever, lets not go to the chimney tax and wheather your house is brickwork or pebble dashed tax tax tax tax. If you get any work the boss exploits you, blackmails you, nobody protects you. The police beats you up instead of protecting you. Why do you think so many youngsters are protesting right now against police brutality, where all the 'lions', the 'tigers' the whole fucking ZOO of police animals is set loose, ready to beat you up to death, and get away with it, if you do something like looking at them 'na krivo'. I am not surprised if they bring a new law soon that you need to collect your farts in a bottle!


Yes, it is very easy to comment from the outside, to generalise how lazy the young people are, to give irrelevant advice because is based on your own surroundings and systems in your cosy and functioning whatever civilisation, but OK, I know you don't know any different. Try living it. Go on, I dare you! Why are YOU not responsible for making things better in Macedonia if already you call yourself Macedonian? A?! What about YOUR future generations? Aren't you responsible to fix it for them? You are not much better than V. B. here expecting me, just because of the macedonian post code at birth, to be staying and doing all the hard work, keeping Macedonia ticking along for you, and splitting the benefits of it 50-50 for me and you!

Anyhoooo, I did my bit, tried, I failed, now since you seem to be the expert, over to you, YOU go and fix it!!

Listen woman! You don't know me, you don't know my past, and you don't know what I am doing or not doing to fix things. You simply have no idea. So don't judge me because you are unhappy with your life. If you read my original post that you are replying to, you would see that I acknowledged that "it's not that easy" and that some people leave because of unfair conditions and the rest. BUT, I am fully aware that MORE than half of the young people would rather drink coffee and walk the kafici rather than step up to the plate and become an adult and GET A JOB. I have seen, with my own eyes, as I bust my balls for work the other people my age sipping coffee and driving their cars and motorcycles that their grandmother's pension bought them. They laugh. But who is laughing now? I am a business owner, I am an adult, and the rest of them still live with their parents and sip coffee and walk the kafici and kafani. They complain from the moment they finish high school/university all the way until their deathbed. It's all "abe politika e sve" but have they even tried to do something about it??? NO!

Speaking of racqueteers, I know of a group of dedicated citizens that successfully got rid of the Kumanovo mafia that was brutally terrorizing the citizens of Gevgelija. It doesn't take much, it's not easy, but it's not impossible. You're telling me there were racqueteers and thugs, so your family ran away. Why? Did you try to fight them? Do you think someone else should do your dirty work? These racqueteers are a product of their environment: They are poor, and they have no resistance to their criminal ways. Why wouldn't they keep doing what they are doing?? You and people like you are letting them!!

I may live somewhere else now, but from the sounds of it (I also don't know you - but I am just giving you a taste of your own medicine) - I am doing more for my fatherland than you ever will. At the very least, THE VERY LEAST, I didn't run away for my own personal gain. I left to learn and earn so that I can make home better for me, and everyone else. And I am doing so.

So anyways, I am not as mad now as I was when I started writing this post, and I feel for your terrible experiences, but to be honest, you pissed me off with your judgements of someone you don't even know. If you aren't the one I was talking about (the lazy kafana idiots) then you are a fool to be offended by such comments. You don't know everyone in Macedonia, and you can't speak for all of them. I speak for the one's I know, and I stand by my statements.

Anyways, have a fantastic day.

I am not denying that there are lazy young people there that spend their time on kafici and kafe, who I call tate nosi mama mesi. These are not the ones that are looking for a way out, because they have to actually work when they get out. Why do that? You seen them, but you have to accept the ones I speak for exist too. You went out to learn and earn and make better home for yourself and that to you is noble, and when I do the same because I couldn't make ends meet in Macedonia, I am a little selfish runaway.

I am not allowed to judge you because I don't know you and yet, here you are freely assuming that you do more than I ever will for the fatherland when you don't know me either. I may have failed to fix it from Macedonia, but trust me what I am doing right now is working on a much bigger fix, the mentioned Kocani mafia, whos head is of important background, are a very, very small fish in comparison(who operate today but no, I wasn't their target, they go for shop/bar owners, we never were big enough to attract them). Because some people on this board know my identity I have to leave it at that.

And I am sorry to piss you off.

You went out to learn and earn and make better home for yourself and that to you is noble, and when I do the same because I couldn't make ends meet in Macedonia, I am a little selfish runaway. I am not allowed to judge you because I don't know you and yet, here you are freely assuming that you do more than I ever will for the fatherland when you don't know me either.[/quote]
We must've misunderstood eachother here. I wrote that I was only giving you a taste of your own medicine, meaning I didn't mean what I said because I really don't know you and therefore don't know if you ran away selfishly or not.


Please don't apologize for pissing me off. I shouldn't be mad because we don't know eachother and we probably are similar in many ways, therefore making the argument stupid. If you are doing something to improve Macedonia, I applaud and support you, and anyone else who is trying to fix our beloved homeland. I am doing the best that I personally can, and will continue to do so.

One name, one love, one goal - Makedonija. Na zdravje i dobar vikend!