From Vodenka on a another thread. This is what we are dealing with. No, it was not 100 years ago. It was 1982. I am OUTRAGED!



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TRANSLATION:
HELLENIC REPUBLIC Top secret
MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SECURITY
NATIONAL SECURITY SERVICE
Athens, 16 February 1982
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Number of protocol 6502/7-3042….

(…..) INTRODUCTIONS
a. The Skopians' activities for the autonomy of Macedonia may be efficiently confronted mainly by wiping out the use of the idiom, in the regions near the borders. This opinion is based on the realizations that also other regions that in older times were the center of "Macedonism", like Kastoria, are not hit by the Skopian propaganda, because there the use of the idiom has been almost wiped out.
b. This element by itself would be enough to exclude any thoughts of repatriation of the P/R (political refugees) who now reside in Yugoslavia and who have been brought up with the "Macedonian idea", the "Macedonian language and culture", independently of their participation or not to the organizations SNOF, NOF and activities taken for detaching Greek territories, during the period 1946-1949.
c. As for the above it is imperative to:
1. The creation of a state institution that will depend from the Prefectures of the regions near the borders, lined with the suitable and specially trained to the "Plot against Macedonia" subject, personnel. This institution will engage itself only with this subject, with the supervision of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and will collaborate closely, but in secret, with the Security Authorities and all the public services (Tax office, Schools, Army, Church, etc.).
2. In the public services and especially in the educational institutions the employees who will be in service have to be ignorant of the local idiom.
3. The establishment of special enlightenment seminaries, for all the public service employees and the clergy who are in service in the sensitive region of Macedonia.
4. The establishment of motivations for the obligatory residence of the public servants and other employees, in the quarters of their service (example: payment of the rent, extra pay, etc.).
5. Establishment of Cultural Association, like "ARISTOTELIS" in Florina and economic help to them, for the realization of events and the publishing of books, newspapers, magazines, etc. and afterwards these will be sent to the Diaspora abroad who has origins from the regions of the senders. This will boost their national sentiment and they will be protected from the anti-Hellenic propaganda that is been practiced by S/M (Slavmacedonians) organizations.
6. Insertion of various obstacles (non-recognition of diplomas, postponement of military service, etc.) for the Greek students who wish to study in Skopje.
7. Marking in each village of persons who, due to their kin bounds and their personality, influence a large circle of co-villagers and with any means (even with money payments) get close to them and use them properly so they will behave as the fighters of the use of the idiom in their circle. To this direction a very positive and effective role can be that of the Youngers of the political parties, by the judgment and coordination of the Government, when a between parties agreement will be reached.
8. Recruitment in the Armed Forces, in Police Bodies, in the public services and Organisms of employees with origins from Florina region, by exception, and their obligatory location in other areas of the Country.
9. The encouragement, by the leadership of the Army, of meetings and marriages of Army officers, who are on duty there and have origins abroad, with women that speak the idiom. (…)

THE CHIEF DIMITRIS KAPELARIS ANT/GOS

THIS IS THE WAY GREEK DEMOCRACY WORKS AND BEHAVES TO ITS CITIZENS. STILL TODAY SOME OF THE ABOVE "SUGGESTIONS" ARE APPLIED AGAINST THE MACEDONIANS.
SO, YOU MACEDONIANS, STILL BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE NO MACEDONIANS LEFT IN GREECE? THEN WHY GREECE IS TAKING ALL THESE MEASURES?

I feel ill on so many levels.
Pick an initiative and lets analyse them one at a time!

Here is one:

These are called "Shpioni" ... God knows what else they sold.

The begalci will not be permitted back to their birthplaces for fear they with poison the minds of their kin.

They didn't get the 'Macedonian' idea or the 'Macedonian' language from SNOF or NOF. They got it from their parents and grandparents.

There you have it, the church, tax office, schools and army working hand in hand to eradicate us ... EU .. yoohoo.

I am positive all Egejci will read this thread and be shocked and horrified about the motivations for our own people becoming grkomani. It is nothing I have not suspected. But to see official government policy encouraging this. Well, I can hardly explain my emotions. I am excited and angry. Always a wonderful combination.

To think that people sold out their very identity for a few sheckles makes me want to puke.

Skapan

REAL HUMANS DON'T DO THINGS LIKE THIS, THESE THINGS ARE ANIMALS, ZIVOTNI, LOST SOULS, SELL OUTS AND HATED BY MANY RELATIVES!

THEY WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT, IN HELL.

Relatives is the key word here, if they could do this to their own kin, imagine what they did to others that werent, sad

WOW
This is BIG
We need to use this to our advantage.
This is proof that the Greeks have been doing what we have been saying for all of these years.
The RoM government needs to use this in negotiations, this is on going genocide.
This says exactly how they have been intimidating our people.

This is nothing compared to what they've been doing. This is barely a drop in the bucket.

I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever deka ke platat za se shto ni napravija.

Maknews is right this is only the tip of the iceberg of the sort of things they would do (and still do).

Seventeen men from my grandparents' village were hung once because they wouldn't give up the location of a single partizan. That is the mentality of the people to be dealt with. What is killing someone for speaking their own language to these people? Nothing.

ḱe platat, ama toa od nas zavisi!

I also just read this and i have freaked out.

I cant believe this is on paper.Who the fuck wrote this and with what authority?

Let's assume that all the points for ''national reasons'' can be justified by Greece(which are not but lets pretend that when national security is at stake we can do anything we want)...but this???



I mean this goes against Greece's own citizens...for example who tells me that the University of Skopje is not really good in a certain science and why would a greek be limited not to study there only bsc of the crap disputes between Greece and Yugoslavia???
Pathetic....

SN, if that was your biggest concern ... the world would be a better place.
But the systematic eradication of our people organised from a Governmental level is ethnic genocide. This documents it. And we know the definition of genocide. This fits.

To be called a "shpion" (spy) in Egej is a terrible thing. The word has such an evil connotation that makes a lot more sense based on the above information.

Further indication that our own people (Grkomani) are our worst enemy.
Any non Macedonian fighting the cause to eradicate us is merely paid for it.

SN, what do you mean "this goes against Greece's own citizens".

Those other points are also against Greece's own citizens. They just have a different ethnicity, but are nonetheless citizens.

the whole thing is outraging.But i was trying to find something that would go against Greeks without a connection to the ''idiom'' as they refer to it.

Just to show again how bullshit this writting is.Creating obstacles to people from all over the country not connected to the ''idiom'' ?Is it like the middle ages or something?Unacceptable completely...

Yes, it's outrageous for non Greeks and especially for those who pretend to be Greeks. For those who retrieve things that happenned 100 years ago, as an old communist said : "Hard times, hard people..."

Traveller giati den eheis parei ton mpoulo akoma?

Will u enlight us about how Psomiadis views oh mighty Greece?Maybe want a yughurt in ur face as well?

Ton mpoulo...Le poul

Traveller, this document is dated 1982.

You said,


Are you referring to the Prosfigi (Christian Turks) with this?

Or are you referring to the people who are being discriminated against, with the document in question? Because if that is the case, it would have been more accurate if you'd said "those who [are forced to] pretend to be Greeks".