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 Post subject: Archaeological News
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2006 13:50 
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I think its a good idea to start a thread about recent finds in the country, considering there are new finds or interesting news regarding them occurring very often! :)


Ill Start!

http://www.vreme.com.mk/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=1&EditionID=910&ArticleID=60601


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http://a1.com.mk/vesti/default.asp?VestID=69963

New find in Bitolsko selo


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Roman tombstone unearthed near Bitola


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Откриена античка надгробна плоча

http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/?ItemID=1B63231DD594084EA8244F1415F23619


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struja wrote:
Roman tombstone unearthed near Bitola

If you go 5km south of Zhabeni where this Roman tombstone was found you hit that magic 1913 boundary south of which only 'pure ellines' have lived for 4000 years! Talk about bullshit Greek claims. :?

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maknews wrote:
struja wrote:
Roman tombstone unearthed near Bitola

If you go 5km south of Zhabeni where this Roman tombstone was found you hit that magic 1913 boundary south of which only 'pure ellines' have lived for 4000 years! Talk about bullshit Greek claims. :?


Tell me about it Maknews! :D

Well you wouldn’t believe what I saw last night on Tera TV. The Greek museum in Solun have offered Mentor Huseinovski a larger amount of money to buy the artifact but the he did the right thing and told the Greeks to f’off (kako da ne, da gi ebam tie!) and is considering donating it to the museum in Bitola.

Now, this is one thing I don’t understand, if something is found in private land doesn’t the state Protection of Cultural Heritage take over?
What’s the law with regards to new discoveries archeological artifact found in MK?


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Hey Struja!

Im also confused regarding the law in these situations. The only problem i can see if its law that the state must take possession of national heritage on private land, is that the people that find the stuff wont say anything about it!


Maybe a law that requires them to pass it on to a Macedonian museum but being paid handsomely for it ?

Either way something must be figured out and soon!



Something quite disturbing

http://www.vecer.com.mk/?ItemID=A7527422070DE149AF54DE0E21413E05


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struja wrote:

Well you wouldn’t believe what I saw last night on Tera TV. The Greek museum in Solun have offered Mentor Huseinovski a larger amount of money to buy the artifact but the he did the right thing and told the Greeks to f’off (kako da ne, da gi ebam tie!) and is considering donating it to the museum in Bitola.
All indications with this discovery point to macedonians beeing Italian.

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Now, this is one thing I don’t understand, if something is found in private land doesn’t the state Protection of Cultural Heritage take over?
What’s the law with regards to new discoveries archeological artifact found in MK?


There may be a law however it is not policed. I remember Bukovchani telling me that people would uncover artefacts from hreaklea and use the items to build their homes. Go figure


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kczoran wrote:
All indications with this discovery point to macedonians beeing Italian.

Como sta bratchko! Viva Makedonia! :twisted:


Here's another article about this from Idividi:

http://www.idividi.com.mk/English/Other ... index.html

The last sentence says: "This discovery starting Tuesday is under the authority of the Bureau for Protection of the Cultural Heritage."


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maknews wrote:
"This discovery starting Tuesday is under the authority of the Bureau for Protection of the Cultural Heritage."

So there is a law??? :?

Zoki wrote:
There may be a law however it is not policed. I remember Bukovchani telling me that people would uncover artefacts from hreaklea and use the items to build their homes. Go figure.

Typical!

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Maybe a law that requires them to pass it on to a Macedonian museum but being paid handsomely for it ?

Well I do agree with you Volk thats If there isn't a law, but still a good option I think!


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http://www.pravo.org.mk

There you can find the law about the cultural heritage (just search "kultura")

I think Paragraph 15 explains the problem with the findings.


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Why bother, MK have always been "Diva Liga" Wild West on the Balkan. As long as Grekos pay good and the standard of living is poor, everyone will sell what he find to the Grekos.

The onkel of one friend of mine is real Tomb Raider. He is in posession of very old Treasure Charts, and all he does for living is Raiding the Hills in the neighborhood. He sells alot, and many times he finds even gold. He does not give a sh** about some Ancient Heritage, and the Police Department is even covering him :D .

Believe me, only the Euro governs in there, and in a way I dont blame them. Only well financialy covered people care about some Heritage.

"You cant preach about God on a empty Stomach."


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Latest archaeological news from Macedonia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p49aIeaOiM&mode=related&search=


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Bronze Apollo statue found and sold to greece


http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/?ItemID=B4ACD432C077084DA6F48C5988CDFC35


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- Не сакам да верувам дека луѓе од полицијата, од царината и мои колеги-археолози се замешани во тие работи. Сепак, ќе ја испитаме целата работа за да видиме колкави се можностите тоа да е вистина - рече Кузман.


pasko kuzman....unfortunately ist is the truh that aslo our people are involved in such a shame!!!

if i would rule my lovely macedonia, i would hang them all by public :twisted:

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I'd set up a special task force for this with their own budget.

Some Macedonian specialists working behind the scenes to know the value of items etc, and 'Investigator/Detective' types finding whose selling them and where to buy and finally 'merchant/rich buyer' types set up to 'purchase' the item.

They people on the front end need to be able to speak multiple languages and appear 'Greek' one day or Brittish the next, etc etc.

Once they buy the item and pay the money, they follow them and the money trail. Then they bust the whole organisation (or if alone) catch them in the act the next time they try to dig and sell - that way the identity of the rich-buyers (actual Special Task Force Operatives) is not compromised.

Kind of - James Bond style (without the gadgets and all the action). On the front line someone is set up to be 'rich' and a collector (or multiple agents set up for this) and behind the scenes are the historians and artifact experts, etc helping and guiding this Agent.

Ahh Macedonia, if only you could afford this or take our History serious enough to consider this.


That and adding the 'sale of national and historical items, relics and artifacts' an equivalent crime to Treason (which in essence, it is, because of it we are being denied our ethnic and national existance by others).


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Well said Rogi :)



More about our destroyed past..
http://www.vecer.com.mk/?ItemID=0E493566F174CC41B60EFF018B38DCE7


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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2006 10:44 
maknews wrote:
struja wrote:
Roman tombstone unearthed near Bitola

If you go 5km south of Zhabeni where this Roman tombstone was found you hit that magic 1913 boundary south of which only 'pure ellines' have lived for 4000 years! Talk about bullshit Greek claims. :?

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It's not the discovery of America.
The vast majority of inscriptions in Macedonia are in Greek and a minority in Latin.
Latin was used mainly in the Roman colonies as those of Thessaloniki, Philippoi, Kassandreia etc.


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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2006 10:48 
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Gold Ring from a grave in Sindos cemetery -Central Macedonia region -Greece.
Archaeological museum of Thessaloniki.

It is made of a native workshop (using the gold of river Echedoros/Gallikos)
6 th century BC. (That's before the adoption of attic dialect as official in Macedonia by Alexander I)

"ΚΛΕΙΤΑΙ ΔΩΡΟΝ"
Can anybody read the inscription?


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"ΚΛΕΙΤΑΙ ΔΩΡΟΝ"

I'll take a shot at this but I can't speak Greek:

ΚΛΕΙΤΑΙ -> Kletva (oath or pledge)

ΔΩΡΟΝ -> Dar(oi) (gift)

BTW, why would the most powerful empire of the time -- which was supposedly Greek speaking -- have to adopt the Greek dialect of it's enemies in Athens?


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