Issus the fish, riba, the sighn of the Christianity.

Exactly, so when in the Glagolitic script you write IS (which is a common shortcut for writing Jesus) it not only means Jesus it also looks like the two fish that symbolize Jesus. Whoever created the Glagolitic script made that purposely.

Thanks for teaching us that, Slovak.

Thsi symbol, the fish, was used byt the first Christians. It is derived from the following initials in Greek :
"Ιησούς Χριστός Θεού Υιός Σωτήρ" = ΙΧΘΥΣ = fish
"Jesus Christ God's Son Saviour"

The symbol was used to avoid being detected by the Romans.

Andrew, ne tropaj!

Jesus was the prophet of the AEON/AGE OF PISCES (the age we just left behind entering a new aeon - the one of Aquarius or the 'man who bears a pitcher of water') - remember how he fed the ppl with wine and TWO fish???What is the astrological symbol of PISCES?Two fish, andrew - turned towards each other just like those glagolitz letters - so be absolutely convinced that the fish symbolism doesnt stems from the writings on his cross, wich was in greek - wich is in keeping with your song that everything in this world is greek or stems from something greek. I dont denie that the first letters make the word IHTIOS (is that right?)-but this is in no way the reason for the pisces symbolism, the reason being explained above.

Hi Magedon, happy New Year !

You translate the past using the present, though :

Glagolitic Alphabet did not exist when this symbol of Christianity was used. It is to be found in catacumbs in Rome and elswhere dating from the 2nd cent A.D. At that time, there was NO Glagolitic alphabet.

ζέστη > zesti > hot

Macedonian zheshko > hot

Serbian/Croatian zhestoko > hot(with multiple conotations)

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And what about the Ancient Macedonian καυσία > kausia > ka - usia


Some derive it from the Greek καύση > combustion.

But in Macedonian for example it has etymology:

The first KA as in KA-pak, KA-pa, KA-pka, Ka-put etc, indicates something which is coming form above or is put on top of it.

Usia > in all South Slavic languages means to HIT UP, and has Etymology meaning that it comes to GLOW when it Heatt Up.

It is also present in Russian Сияние > Sijanie > to Light up, shine
In Polish as Świecić > to Light up, to shine

Kausia could have the Etymology "Object that covers up from the Heat" which is more accurate than the simple derivation from the Greek καύση >combustion .

It apears that both etymological explenation have similar Idea, but the Macedonian one is more precisely.

Mr. MK,
Except in this Forum, everywhere else the idea of Thracians being Slavs or ancient Macs speaking a language even just relative to Slavic is rejected.

Just have a look at OXFORD CLASSICAL DICTIONARY :
Ancient Macedonian is classified as a Greek language. OLIVIER MASON adds that farther research is needed, but for the time being all the existing ecvidence points to Greek language. Not even an insinuation about Slavic language.

So, any coincidence between ancient Greek and Slavic is similar to coincidence between ancient Greek and e.g. Sanskrit .

ZESTH from ZEO=boil, ZESIS = boiling

1# not exactly. just cause not accepted by OXFORD does not means that there are none. but I wont argue with you.

2# may be or may be not

MK,
You have a much better knowledge of me as far as linguistics are concerned, it is obvious from your posts.

I have a limited knowledge of linguistics, and therefore I have to rely more on non-biased expert opinions.

But I sincerely thank you for this exchange of views.

No problem Andreas, we are discussing, no one have to feel assaulted or threatened for anything.

take care

andreas you seem like a decent fellow and i admire your passion for greece. regarding the thracian being simmilar to slavs theory, it is not accepted by the old historical establishment of today, but what is to say that the history the balkans is correct and can never be changed in the future.

a few years ago it was thought that the american indigineous people were all decendents of one group crossing the barring straits 11000 years ago. all the experts agreed and laughed when someone proposed an alternative view ,now its the alternative view that is being considered as the correct one multi migrations and layers upon layers of invasions.

thracian is now considered to be closest to the balto slavic group of languages by the modern linguistic new scholars.

we have pointed out the many similarites between slavic and thracian words on this forum many times. if you do not want to accept them as pointing towards a new historical perspective because you think the 19th century based one is correct thats cool., but dont be surprised if even in your lifetime your view becomes obsolete and considered incorrect

Andrea.Do you think that what mk is doing is farther research?
Is Oliver Mason still researching?

From the old Scholars, no one ever came up with the Idea even to try to compare Thracian with "Slavic". This is due to the so called Slavic Migration Theory.

Their comparations were always done with Latin or Greek, sometimes even with Germanic, but never with "Slavic".

#1
Thank you OSIRIS, I try to be !

#2
This may be so, but I am speaking about contemporary state of the art.

knowledge changes andreas it is not static, as mk points out thracian was never compared to slavic because of the slav migration concept.

but i ask you what happened to thracian who according to herodutus were as numerous as the leaves of the trees where did they go and why do they disapear at about the time the slavs appear.

thracian was a name herodutus gave for a huge group of related peoples and languages, simmilar to the name germans to describe the deutch tribes.

Absolutely correct. And whoever 'invented' glagolits had every posible reason to make those two letter resemble the pisces symbol.

Thanx for the good wishes, happy hollydays to you too, Andrei!

By the way, do you agree that the so called 'slavic' language (and ppl) must have had descended from SOME ancient ppl??? You probably dont think that the ppl and the language 'invented' themselves in 4-5-6ad?Numbering in millions??