i know there has been discussion on this, but i think i may have found another word that is common between a slavic language and greek.

Talas- i think it's a croatian word for sea or ocean or wave.
Thalassa- the greek word for the sea

Ne & Ne are very common.

RTG

I've heard talas be used in Macedonian too, however the main term is bran i believe. Which makes sense seeing how brani means defend...

Anyway i know that livada is a Greek word.

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In modern Greek there exist only a few Slavic words. Once I presented some of them. But there are names that I think are of Slavic origin:
ΣΤΟΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ =STOYANNIS
ΝΤΕΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ = DEYANNIS
ΜΠΟΓΔΑΝΟΣ = BOGDANOS
ΓΚΟΛΕΜΑΣ = GOLEMAS

I do mirisi some Syggros in this thread......

Macedonian-----Greek

Miris-------------Mirisi
Ela---------------Ela
Doma------------Thoma(Anc. Grek)
Odi/Odish--------Odos(street/way)
Iljada-------------Iljades
Eftino-------------Ftino
Chaj--------------Tsaj I know... Turkish in origin.
Migdal(dial. eng=almond)........Migdalos


There are alot of common words atleast in Macedonian.......

"In Modern Greek there are more than 500 words and clusters of Slavic Origin..."

"The Macedonian Knot", by Hans Lothar Steppan

I do not know who Mr. STEPPAN is, but his surname denotes a Slav. And as I have understood from this Forum, there are many Slavs who try to find Slavic roots in everything.

So, with all due respect to Mr. STEPPAN, I quote the BRITANNICA, rather more well internationaly accepted then Mr. STEPPAN :
"Vocabulary

The vast majority of Demotic words are inherited from Ancient Greek, although quite often with changed meaning—e.g., filó ‘I kiss' (originally ‘love'), trógho ‘I eat' (from ‘nibble'), kóri ‘daughter' (from ‘girl'). Many others represent unattested combinations of ancient roots and affixes; others enter Demotic via Katharevusa: musío ‘museum,' stikhío ‘element' (but inherited stikhyó ‘ghost'), ekteló ‘I execute.' In addition, there are more than 2,000 words in common use drawn from Italian and Turkish (accounting for about a third each), and from Latin, French, and, increasingly, English. The Latin, Italian, and Turkish elements (mostly nouns) acquire Greek inflections (from Italian síghuros ‘sure,' servitóros ‘servant,' from Turkish zóri ‘force,' khasápis ‘butcher'), while more recent loans from French and English remain unintegrated (spor ‘sport,' bar ‘bar,' asansér ‘elevator,' futból ‘football,' kompyúter ‘computer,' ténis ‘tennis').
"Greek language."Encyclopædia Britannica from Encyclopædia Britannica 2006 Ultimate Reference Suite DVD .[Accessed May 8, 2007]."

There are only a few Slavic words in Greek vocabulary, all of them connected to mountains, woods, animals, animal husbantry etc, indicating the origin of the people who lended the words to Greeks.

Ie the root words of the language neatly pointing to the fact that slavic are older than greek since in greek all of the slavic words are for essential things like mountin, wood, animals etc. clearly pointing that greek was "built" on slavic foundation.

Mr. Magedon, I'm afraid you have to see a doctor :
"...vast majority of Demotic words are inherited from Ancient Greek"

and a few words from the barbarian Slavs of the 6th-7th cent, hiding in the mountains and breeding animals.

That is out of the question.Out of any logic....If Greek is based on a Slavic language then i am Batman,Superman and Spiderman all in one!!!!!

then welcome to the never-never land - the same land you were raised in...

Think about it - only the root words of one's language make up - it is clear to me that these words in the greek are the essential words (like forest,mountin,river, animal)- adoptions from the pre-greek settlers of the balkans.

Or do you have another theory why the slavic words in greek cluster in those essential areas??

That is another thing.It is out of any logic though to suggest Greek were based on a Slavic language.It is one thing to have some limited boroughs and another thing to suggest it is based on Slavic language.Modern Greek has been proove that it evolved from Ancient Greek.No matter how much u bust ur ass over it even a first year Linguistics student would laugh at such a claim.Why do u tend to overexaggerate so much in regard to Greece Magedon???
Do u understand that u preserve the hatred of your grandpa's era???That is not wise mate....

Mate i dont preserve any hatred...there is only love and light in my life...i really dont see where did you see any hatred in that post...it is the greeks (eve i exclude you from them) that preserve the hatred, not reckognizing us, bullying us, pushing us in corners - just like denko malevski said on that interview - it is bcs you pushed us in corner with developing unexisting claims on an ancient ppl and history based on our name and identity that pushed us in the corner of digging DEEEP into our history/roots only to find what was expected...That we have 1000 times stronger claim on everything with the name sticker Macedonia.

I know that it sounds like a sf to you, but believe me, am telling you this with the greatest honesty i can find in myself - slavic languages (and especially macedonian) are very old, older than greek and latin and this truth is only now slowly emerging - but it is emerging bcs it is the truth and we macedonians have known this truth always...Beleive me when i say that i dont speculate about this - i know it for a fact - tru my whole existence as a mako i have come across a 100000 different individuals/clues/works/books that support this truth. If you knew Macedonian and was intrigued about it, i know that you would have shared this opinion. It is not "like that" that all forumist makos agree on this matter. They'v came to this truth each of them by his/hers own means...


cheerz mate, once you start changing your attitudes (i mean the average greek "joe") full with hatred will you start being responded accordingly. Dont get me wrong, but it must be clear to you that its yor "side" that continues the hatred of their grandads, not us. We are the only one true multi-ethnic state in the Balkans. That should say something to you about the levels of our "hatred"...

Magedon i am amazed....It is obvious u believe this stuff.I would be open to read anything CREDIBLE that prooves that Greek was based on a Slavic language...
Do u understand that by stating something like that it is like turning upside down the whole western history????
Which institution accepts your saying?How is it possible that your language is older and Greek is based on a Slavic language when we gave you the Cyrillic Alphabet????Your alphabet was based on the Greek one.
I mean what is Slavic or of Slavonic origin in Modern Greek????
We can exclude the boroughs that are common in every language internationally.Apart from the boroughs how can you proove that Greek is Slavic based????
Give me one TOP uni that claims that and i will accept it...
I know we were pushy.I dont agree with that.I have said that.But by accepting that fact of the past and producing it today is one and the same.
I am not gonna act as an apologist.I know what we did in the 90's.But when repeating it ALL the time what will u gain?
I think you are ok.Sometimes funny.But i have a sense you are extremely overexagerating everything.I dont know if that is a personallity trait of yours.I doubt though that it is done as an act of propaganda.You obviously believe in your heart all those stuff...So your not bad BUT do some broader research on Greece mate...I am open to assume one or another,but some stuff you say are blown over porpotion!!!!!!!

Sn its already late and i realy dont have the energy to write anything of substance right now, but we'll talk...In the meantime try a more specific gogle search...you'll be amazed at what might come up...

I never said Greek is 'based" on any Slavic, i just said that Slavic languages are older than Greek and Latin and their influence is obvious in both. You percieve right that what i believe is not based on any propaganda...i was never really a good pupil - it is based on real world insights/conversations/researches of honest individuals whom i respect more than any other working on the subject; bodies/ppl of kowledge available on places difficult to find (let alone having an net link) even to me - but also on places like the Macedonian institute of history and the likes of it...

The "western" view on history is already turned upside down by the discoveries of the Slovenians, Serbs, Macedonians, Italians - theories like the ptc are slowly being adopted (no ppl fall from the blue sky out of nowhere in such numbers - they were the same those "barbarians" greeks spoke of - only now with a new name, courtesy of roman historians).

I can see that you are a smart young man - never exclude any possibilities and understand that the Slavs in general were (and still are secretively)the arch-enemy of Germanic/Western ppls. I dont have any agenda or reason for lying to you - am just an musician who happens to love his heritige and culture and is nurturing it troughout his life...Like you yourselve said in corelation to the greeks - allow me to know better than you about my language & culture & ppl...

we'll talk more, and there are many others on this forum that can give you very interesting materials.Its just that it is dependable on how much are you "open" to new insights and truths. And just for the record - in 91 me too was brainwashed and believed the "migration" myth.Its only when i started to investigate how did this exactly happened that i had my "awakening"...

Cheerz mate, good nite dont let the bed bugs bite (its 00.30 over here in Skopje)

SN, you are talking about different things! I don't believe that anybody said Greek is based on Slavic (Macedonian). What people here are saying is that Macedonian is older than Greek which can very well be true.

About giving us the Cyrilic alphabet. You gave us nothing!!! Kyril and Methodius were Byzantines and very possibly ethnic Macedonians so I don't see how can you gave us anything??? Second, St. Kliment very possibly made the Cyrilic script so again I see zero connection with YOU? Anyway who are you?

SN, Kiril and Metodija actually produced the Glagothic Script which has few similarities with greek. It was later that the modern cyrillic script was developed by St. Kliment (the one with characters common with greek)

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Ok lets assume that Magedon didnt mean at his very first post that Greek were Slavic based.How is it possible a language to be older than another when it had no writen form?Or an aplhabet.
I mean what?Did you for 1000 years did not use any form of written language and just spoke it????I am telling you what a i am taught at Slavic country(Bulgaria).Why do they teach us in Bulgarian Unies that this Slavic language was much younger than Greek and that is was based on the Greek alphabet?
That is not again what mainstream scholars believe.Dont debate me...Debate the Bulgarians and the Russians and all the Slavic country that officially accept that Byzantium gave u an aplhabet.
In regard to Kyril and Methodius.They were based in Salonika.One of their parents was Greek.Forgot who.Byzantium is consider by many scholars a Greek Empire.The lingua franca of the era was Greek.
So it is not about who am i,but who were my ancestors.And my guess is that your ppl have a lot to be grateful to the Greeks.Remember what i was always saying about the Greek ''superiority''?That ''superiority'' has always been through time a cultural one.Every credible uni in the world accepts that Ancient Greek predated Slavic languages.It was with the help of the Greeks that Slavic languages were brought to life....The cultural influence of the Hellenes has marked all of our Slavic neighbours through out time.
If your ego is hurted and you denote any cultural help from the Hellenes,its another thing.I am saying what i was taught in a Slavic country.BULGARIA!!!!!!!!

How many of these scholars readily acknowledge the Phoenician script as the true father of these alphabets?

RTG