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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2008 06:08 
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Jack wrote:
Risto the Great wrote:
Andreas Syggros wrote:
YDRA=In Ancient Greek is WATER, in modern it is called NERO.

Ydra = Nero ... exact match.
You must be related to the ancient greeks.
We say Voda. Nero is much closer to Ydra though.

Khoisan family of southern Africa say ...
"Naron''a drink. That does not sound even a little bit like "Nero".

But I would not want to suggest you are all Africans.

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Andreas has already explained the word's evolution. Langauge are dynamic, living things.

Regardless, Idor hasn't at all disappeared from the Greek langauge. It still forms the root of many common words:

afidatosi = dehydration
idrotas = sweat

I'll stick with the African connection thanks.
Makes the most sense.

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2008 06:10 
Homer MakeDonski wrote:
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It is preaty easy: Yanan = Danan, Yananli = Danaoi This is how they were called in Homeric Time, thus old form from Doiden = New Comers.


Don = place
Dno = bottom
Dom=home

donnese

nese = nose = bring
don = the place where it should be brought

etc.

Dan= place, home, reference to the name giver,

a

oi = walk, go

Someone who came to the place from somewhere else here at the place of the reference.

My guess based on the fact that the Turks (Anatolians) mostly assimilated the Phrygian population, there are many Phrygian words included in the Turk language........ Bit Mental Gymnastic....


Have a look this :

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Little wonder, then that the Irano-Semitic peoples considered the Greeks to be effeminate.
In fact, the terms for Greek in the Irano-Semitic world
Yauna (Old Iranian),Yona (Pali),Javan (Greek),Yavana (Prakrit),besides meaning barbarian or savage, are derived from the root-word
yoni, meaning vagina.
Source:
http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/bl ... -ethymolog


Thanks Homer, thats the most interesting thing I have read in a while.

Ancient Greeks as 'Newcomers' ... as 'effeminate' ... curious stuff. :o


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Paul wrote:
Homer MakeDonski wrote:
mk wrote:

It is preaty easy: Yanan = Danan, Yananli = Danaoi This is how they were called in Homeric Time, thus old form from Doiden = New Comers.


Don = place
Dno = bottom
Dom=home

donnese

nese = nose = bring
don = the place where it should be brought

etc.

Dan= place, home, reference to the name giver,

a

oi = walk, go

Someone who came to the place from somewhere else here at the place of the reference.

My guess based on the fact that the Turks (Anatolians) mostly assimilated the Phrygian population, there are many Phrygian words included in the Turk language........ Bit Mental Gymnastic....


Have a look this :

Image

Little wonder, then that the Irano-Semitic peoples considered the Greeks to be effeminate.
In fact, the terms for Greek in the Irano-Semitic world
Yauna (Old Iranian),Yona (Pali),Javan (Greek),Yavana (Prakrit),besides meaning barbarian or savage, are derived from the root-word
yoni, meaning vagina.
Source:
http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/bl ... -ethymolog


Thanks Homer, thats the most interesting thing I have read in a while.

Ancient Greeks as 'Newcomers' ... as 'effeminate' ... curious stuff. :o

Do you think that dog is licking an olive tapenade smeared on that guy's balls? Caligula eat your heart out.

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2008 15:16 
Venom wrote:
I commend you sir on your ability to find a Greek connection to ANYTHING.


A lot is connected to Greek and Latin. The languages of Science-Philosophy-Arts and Law-Administration respectively, for centuries on.

But not everything.

Hear this please :
After the Greek Communist Party was found, one of the first foreing Com Party delegetion to visit the Greeks was the Romanian one, in 1920. They were wearing the traditional for Commies of the time head cap and used to shout publicly :
"Trajaska Republika" = Long Live the Republic (Greece was a Kingdom at that time)

The result is that this cap is still called in Greece "ΤΡΑΓΙΑΣΚΑ" (Trayaska)

So, not everything is Greek.

But be carefull, Venom : Greeks are not the people who try to prove anything Greek. It is the legions of foreign scholars who have more money and resources and prove if it is Greek or not to the world.

What makes many scholars smile is YOUR (not personal) frantical efforts to prove the Rosetta stone as written in ....Macedonian !


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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2008 15:19 
Paul wrote:
Thanks Homer, thats the most interesting thing I have read in a while.


Why don't you tell your friend Homer to send his "scientific" work to any serious institution, as Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard etc ?

And please post the answer of them.


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Andreas Syggros wrote:
Paul wrote:
Thanks Homer, thats the most interesting thing I have read in a while.


Why don't you tell your friend Homer to send his "scientific" work to any serious institution, as Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard etc ?

And please post the answer of them.


Paul,
Andreas Syggros suggestion sound as a nice idea .
Shell I do that ?
Previous text has its author.His name is
Dr. Samar Abbas, Bhubaneshwar-751005, India.
Full text available at :


http://www.payvand.com/news/07/mar/1324.html


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When it comes to Balkan history these 'famous' schools are brain dead.


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Homer MakeDonski wrote:
Andreas Syggros wrote:
Paul wrote:
Thanks Homer, thats the most interesting thing I have read in a while.


Why don't you tell your friend Homer to send his "scientific" work to any serious institution, as Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard etc ?

And please post the answer of them.


Paul,
Andreas Syggros suggestion sound as a nice idea .
Shell I do that ?
Previous text has its author.His name is
Dr. Samar Abbas, Bhubaneshwar-751005, India.
Full text available at :


http://www.payvand.com/news/07/mar/1324.html


I've read Dr Abbas' work few weeks after the movie got out. He speaks quite objectively about the Spartan... ehm, I mean Dorian issue but gets a little of the track when talking about Macedonians and the Balkans and Europe. But generally a very good article.

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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2008 02:00 
I believe there are two ancient Greek sources that desribe the ''Hellenes'' (which was a sun-worshipping cult on the fringes of Greek society) as non-Greek and 'barbarian'.


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