The 'Science of Antiquity', a German entity, created ancient Hellenic civilzation as we know it. This is a stab in every modern "greeks" heart.

The Germans created Modern Greece and the Albanians and Vlach were it's first "Hellenes".

Last paragraph, page 230.

He is essentially saying that use of the term "Greek" in studies is misleading, and suggests anachronistic.

It is more accurate to use the terms "ancient" or "modern" to identify which "Greeks" scholars are talking about, but that not all do this.

You can add to that that once they had created "Hellenism", the German writer, Dreyson was the first to graft it onto the exploits of the ancient Macedonians, in particular, Aleksandar Veliki - thus we have the first connection between the ancient Macedonians, and Modern Hellenism.

It's like Western Europe trying to impose its own ideas or "World View" which has nothing to do with the reality of the situation on the ground, or the state of things, on the ground. This is why in the Western traditiona the ethnic Macedonians lose their meaning, their culture, their identity, (along with everything else in the region), because Hellenism is based on the ressurection of an ancient society, and people, that no longer existed. The post-modernists can always say that something of ancient Greeks does in fact exist, or has survived in the Western tradition, and so argue cultural continuity exists; but this there is nothing "home grown" about it, or natural to Modern Greece, or reflective of the people living there. It's been fabricated entirely, and imposed by external forces. It is why the Macedonians can never be "Greek", and also why Europe will never give up "Greece".

Very well said Paul. Todays imposter Hellene can use all the references they choose about ancient and medieval history. It doesn't matter because they are a people that are living a great big German lie.

I like how he calls the idea that the ancient Macedonians were Greeks, and that modern Greeks are somehow connected to them "a fairytale".

Vamik Volkan makes an interesting point.

Hellenism as defined in the West basically brought to light everything Modern Greece was not. In the name of this ideal abstract they (Europe) began to remove everything that was Oriental about Modern Greece, everything that was Albanian, Turkish, Macedonian, everything that was Christian about Modern Greece, but was not Greek was also removed - Albanians were rechristened, places renamed - the whole nine yards ...

It is some pretty insightful stuff Paul. There's tons of info about the modern 'greeks' and their fake culture. Here are the effects of 'Hellenism' on the Macedonians.


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Ultimately everything that happened in modern "greece's" cultural construction is a system today meant to destroy evidence of a Macedonian people and culture within or out of her borders.

It's systemic, and world wide.

Read footnote 52 in relation to efforts by the New Greeks of this world to censor research work about the Macedonians in Greece.

Perfect example of what we are up against.

Our achievements were stolen from us

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The confusion of philhellenes who didn't even know where to begin with geographical modern "greece" or who couldn't make up their minds if these modern "greeks" were related to the ancients shows the parallel universe in modern "greece" today. BTW this book was reviewed by William St.Clair who called it "a reminder of the blinding effects of cliche".

We are more than familiar with who the Modern Greeks are.

If Western scholars want to know about them they can ask us -- we've been there longer than they have and we know who they were before they were turned into "Greeks".

We must never accept the foolish Balkan history outsiders propagate, it is incredibly misinformed and downright childish. It's as though the new Greek identity was invented as a religion for idiots by idiots.

Greece's "Hellenic" lies are starting to crash onto the rocks of reality. The "Hellenic" idiocy is nearing an end.

i must say although i have known all this stuff since the mid 70s, the sheer volume of information from diferent scholars tm has posted while exhilirating me also depresses me.i cannot fathom how the western european politicians and culture leaders can still support these imposters poseurs and nasty bullies. what must they do for europe to finally see who these people really are what they are really like.

you are spot on here paul, this is why the cannnot give up the bullshit because they created it to serve their own racist agenda and stoke their overinflated ego.

Osiris, you constantly knock Americans but you seem to have failed to notice how backward the Euros are. The way some folks in the EU view Macedonia is the way many of we North Americans view the Euros. Just look at the way European politicians behave and read what European journalists write. They're just like Alabaman rednecks.

maknews i criticise us imperialism and racism not americans, although many americans deserve to be critized because they are very insular and parochial, and fall for their we are number 1, or gods chosen people tag too easily.

i dont know why you think i let the europeans off the hook, my posts about england france spain etc etc would not bear this out.

but if you want me to say paris is a shithole than i wont.

i will say one thing maknews europes young people from the non english speaking parts of europe run rings around the americans. while there is a very small minority of contemporary and cosmopolitan americans, most of the usa is stuck in its glory years while the rest of the world has moved on.