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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2009 04:08 
The U.S (and Australia for that matter), belong in the same basket case as Western Europe.

The U.S for imposing a Treaty on the Macedonians that gave the Albanians self-government, rather than greater human rights within the framework of Our Constitution. Our constitution therefore, was severely undermined by the U.S. Now Meto and UMD want to celebrate it as an "achievement" for Macedonia ! Go figure. There is the Arachinovo incident, which would have ended the conflict, and seen the Macedonians emerge as victors. There is also the U.S imposed no fly zone in Western Macedonia, which directly supplanted our Soveriegnty - and only happened because the Macedonians were winning the battle.

Australia for not recognizing the Macedonian Republic.

Western Europe, for spawning the idea of Modern Hellenism, and creating Modern Greece at the expense of everything and everyone in it, not only now, but in the past too.(This is in reference to Risto Stefov's excellent article, "The Curse of Hellenism")


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 Post subject: Re: criticizeicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2009 05:37 
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i will say one thing maknews europes young people from the non english speaking parts of europe run rings around the americans. while there is a very small minority of contemporary and cosmopolitan americans, most of the usa is stuck in its glory years while the rest of the world has moved on.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I'd say the best thing about Europe is the English speaking part - by far.

Continental Euros are all talk and no walk, posers the lot of them, they can't hold a candle to the kind of dynamic democracy Americans have.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2009 05:54 
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The U.S for imposing a Treaty on the Macedonians that gave the Albanians self-government, rather than greater human rights within the framework of Our Constitution.

The Americans didn't want to enter the Balkans at all -- their hand was forced after years of the EU masturbating and doing nothing.


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Australia for not recognizing the Macedonian Republic.

Australian politicians want the Greek vote, it's as simple as that. For all its bloated hot air the Australian government couldn't care less about justice and human rights.

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Western Europe, for spawning the idea of Modern Hellenism, and creating Modern Greece at the expense of everything and everyone in it, not only now, but in the past too.(This is in reference to Risto Stefov's excellent article, "The Curse of Hellenism")

History as presented by Europeans is phoney it's been discredited, but the Euros love it because it puts them at the top of the heap. Two world wars and the Holocaust that's Europe, and the racism is still alive and kicking in that sewer.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2009 07:08 
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i didnt expect you to agree maknews.

most non speaking europeans are now multi lingual and have an education that is superior to the english one in nearly all aspects. most of them also have a world view that is not parochial like the english speaking one.

i dont know in what field other than popular music that the englsih speaking world leads in anymore.

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According to G. Finlay in his 'History of the Greek Revolution volume 1 - 1861: "The Albanian population occupies most of ancient Greece. Albanians now occupy all Attica and Megaris, Boetia and Locris. They occupy the whole ofCorinthia and Argolis, extending themselves into the northern part of Ardadia and eastern Archaia..."


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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maknews you need to visit the sewer, and stop excluding the usa from the cultural values of the western europeans, have a good look at the houses of congress next tme, the slavish worship of ancient greece is there expressed in marble and other stone.

hitler an his nazis were very popular in the good ole usa especially with the ford bush and kennedy familes to name a few and us corporation were happy to profit from business dealings with hitlers germany.

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According to G. Finlay in his 'History of the Greek Revolution volume 1 - 1861: "The Albanian population occupies most of ancient Greece. Albanians now occupy all Attica and Megaris, Boetia and Locris. They occupy the whole ofCorinthia and Argolis, extending themselves into the northern part of Ardadia and eastern Archaia..."


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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hitler an his nazis were very popular in the good ole usa especially with the ford bush and kennedy familes to name a few and us corporation were happy to profit from business dealings with hitlers germany.
Also Edward VIII of Britain. And let's not forget that Stalin also had admirers from countless western intellectuals and even some industrialists. Those dictators charmed a lot of so-called smart people.

Despite their alleged ideological incompatibility, Hitler's Germany and and Stalin's Soviet Union had a very healthy trade relationship, and signed that infamous non-aggression pact which enslaved Poland and the Baltic countries.


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 Post subject: Re: criticizeicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2009 05:38 
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maknews i criticise us imperialism and racism not americans, although many americans deserve to be critized because they are very insular and parochial, and fall for their we are number 1, or gods chosen people tag too easily.

i dont know why you think i let the europeans off the hook, my posts about england france spain etc etc would not bear this out.

but if you want me to say paris is a shithole than i wont.

i will say one thing maknews europes young people from the non english speaking parts of europe run rings around the americans. while there is a very small minority of contemporary and cosmopolitan americans, most of the usa is stuck in its glory years while the rest of the world has moved on.



I agree with you Osiris. Americans today are nothing but a bunch of brainwashed idiots. Sometimes they resemble you know who to the south of Macedonia.


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 Post subject: Re: criticizeicized use of 'Hellenism'
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maknews wrote:
osiris wrote:
i will say one thing maknews europes young people from the non english speaking parts of europe run rings around the americans. while there is a very small minority of contemporary and cosmopolitan americans, most of the usa is stuck in its glory years while the rest of the world has moved on.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I'd say the best thing about Europe is the English speaking part - by far.

Continental Euros are all talk and no walk, posers the lot of them, they can't hold a candle to the kind of dynamic democracy Americans have.



I don't know how long this democracy will last Maknews. People sold their souls for a black puppet president. You even know the deal about this clown in office.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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Believe me, TM, the United States can wipe its ass with what passes for democracy in Europe.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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It's good to see that some of the zombie imposter hellenes aren't totally in a closet when it comes to who created their country. http://www.helleniccomserve.com/tsounispadavan.html

"Phil-Hellenism created the Modern Greek Nation." - Catherine Tsounis

The first sentence of this article. Of course it wasn't todays modern "greeks" who created their own nation. They were busy robbing from themselves rather than saving themselves.

Funny if you read about the senator who she talks about in this article it seems that he suffers from delusions of grandeur from being related to the Romans and todays imposter hellene being related to the dead ancient race of Hellenes; "I am a Roman," said State Senator Frank Padavan. "We conquered Greece, but she achieved the ultimate revenge: her civilization conquered us." :lol I think Senator Padavan should read the page above this one to see who's civilization conquered who.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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The modern "greeks" sickening inferiority complex is deafening even to mutes. This is what 'hellenism' brings us. A false Frankenstein Republic stiched and bolted with Albanians, Vlachs, Slavs, Turks, Armenians, Jews, Arabs, Africans, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2009 21:32 
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And for the record another famous term todays imposter hellene loves throwing around which was not even coined by one of their own- Hellenistic.

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What else will foreigners create for this mish-mash of ethnies? :?? How long can this bogus race continue to appropriate history and western terms in order to keep the smoke screen up?


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2009 03:01 
This is wonderful stuff, TM.

I like the comment that "continuity" did not exist, but the poems of Byron could not be stopped from being published, and it was their publication, to some extent, that fed the Europeans imagination.

The Europeans imagined continuity, where none existed, they imagined the ancient Greeks still lived ...etc.

The right of New Greece to exist, is based on its false connection to the ancient Greeks. This single point forms the basis of its relationships to everyone and everything. You could call the creation of New Greece - anti-historical.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2009 03:25 
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Thanks Paul. I just got my hands on an interesting book that I'll be posting up soon.


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