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 Post subject: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda of 'Hellenism' & it's assimilatory use
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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda of 'Hellenism' & it's assimilatory use
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Pages 77 and 78 displays how Paparigopolous could care less of what race was what as long as assimilation is possible through 'hellenism'. There was a recent article in which Droysen was said to have written modern "greeces" history. This is not true. Droysen came up with the term 'Hellenism' which paved the way for Paparigopolous to use this for a 4000 year continuation of "hellenic" history. Obviously a propagandist at his time and ours to this day.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda of 'Hellenism' & it's assimilatory use
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Some more about Droysen, Hellenism, and the politics of History as well as the Megali idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda of 'Hellenism' & it's assimilatory use
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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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Funny how greeks never post replies to your threads TM... Have you ever posted your findings on any of their forums?

Keep up the good work!

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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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I have no desire to go on their worthless forums Golden. I know they have been reading and watching this forum for a while now. It upsets them to see their true history come to light on how utterly fake their nation is as well as their ethnicity. "Hellenism" = Propaganda.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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Another page from Fields Of Wheat, Hills Of Blood by Anastasia N. Karakasidiou;

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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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Neokles Kazazis (or Neocles Kasasis) mentioned above was a staunch propagandist for the modern creation 'Hellenism'. This is most of his text. This is pure modern "greek" propaganda at its worst. You will notice the obvious contradictions, lies, and politicized use of the modern term 'Hellenism' and its relation to Macedonia. You will also notice some half-truths as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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http://books.google.com/books?id=d24TAA ... es+kasasis

This is the link to read the entire book. It's only 62 pages long. But there are additional pages at the end where this modern "greek" propagandist claims that "Bulgarians" killed modern "greeks" in Macedonia and he presents a list of names. If you read some of them you will spot many Macedonian names that were obviously hellenized.
If some of you read through the scanned pages of this book you will see how Neocles the Neo-Hellene distinguishes a seperate "slav" people that speak a dialect different from Bulgarian and Serbian. But of course he goes on to call them "greeks that speak Slav" yet he makes mention of Macedonians. Confusing, like most modern "greek" logic, but is typical and worth the read to see how propaganda was used back then to sway the masses.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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Beautiful TM! :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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Thank you Pelagonia. I think when you start to put the pieces of this puzzle together, as confusing as it could get, you start to realize how far brainf@#ked these brainwashed modern "greeks" are who still preach a propaganda that started in the late 18th early 19th century. When you read what Neocles the Neo-Hellene wrote it's like reading what these modern "greek" internet chest beating nationalists write.


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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The exact reason why "hellenism" was a useful political tool for the modern "greek" government: archive/kolettis-the-vlach-megali-idea-speech-t13125.html

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Again this must be noted. A VLACH brought the 'megali idea' to the masses first. How shocking :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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TM you are truly what your nickname is a "TrueMacedonian".

Thank you for finding and posting all these articles that the Neo-hellass fail to respond to. I liken your finding to "Kryptonite truth". It keeps them away!

Like I said, you are a TrueMacedonian!
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 Post subject: Re: Propaganda & Politicized use of 'Hellenism'
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Replace Greece with Germany in the last article and you start to get the real picture... Scary stuff!

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