Alright. Here is my very poor attempt at translating that article posted in dnevnik a few weeks back. The vocabulary was simply too hard for me to simply read, so i went through and translated it with the help of the idividi reccnik.

If there are any discrepancies or rephrasing needed, please send me a PM. For the Macedonian version go here:
http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/?itemID=EBE00D5F1DA4DA488BD360F278A7533B

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Ancient Macedonians were Literate



The problem with the current research is that it assumes that Ancient Macedonians were illiterate amongst all of their successes in forming an empire, a country with all the elements of a contemporary civilisation.

His colleagues, and members of Macedonian Academia for science and art are fencing themselves in, and his discovery is thought of as "science fiction". However he, along with his team bravely ignored the local and international intellectual community and have presented the language and script of the Ancient Macedonians. For academic Tome Bossevski, a retired professor at the Electro-technical University Faculty in Skopje, and his long term colleague Professor Aristotel Tentov, it naturally came to them to find an "equation" and decode the midlle text of the well known artifact- the stone found in Rosetta, Egypt, and with arguments to verify that this was in fact the mother tongue and script which were used by the Great Alexander III the Macedonian, his future generations and his ancestors. The Rosetta Stone was excavated in 196 BC, and on it was written the decree of Ptolomey 5th Epifan. The identical text has been written in three languages- with heiroglyphics, in the internationally recognised demotic script which Macedonian academics have determined to actually be ancient Macedonian, and thirdly in Ancient Greek. The artefact was found by french soldier of Napoleon, during his campaign in Egypt in the year 1799.

The idea to come together to decode the text was born in the 1990s, when academic Gane Todorovski was the ambassador in Moscow. He sent the book “Orthodox Writings” by Genadij Sanistavlovicc Grinevicc to Macedonian Academia.

- In the introductory part, the Rosetta Stone is referred to. Russian words looked very similar to the words of Crnorizec Brave, because Slavs wrote in " quarters and cuts". The chapter of this book really interested me because the Rozetta stone contained similar words, because the ancestors of the Slavs wrote with "quarters and cuts". With colleagues on the internet we found the Rosetta Stone and the writing of the middle text. The "quarters and cuts" inspired our will to try to understand and decode them. This is where the idea that Slavs were literate prior tor to St Kiril and Metodij was born. The additional incentive was that in that particular time in Egypt, the Ptolemnic Macedonian Dynasty ruled. This is how the chain of thoughts began. The world famous Rosetta stone directly implies literacy. This is something that can not be challenged. In our research we didn't add anything that did not already exist, nor did we remove anything from the text to make it fit in with what we aimed to find.

*How was the project Developed?

- Five or six years passed from the time that the project was proposed to when we started working on it. Step by step it grew and inspired us to complete it. The Russian book explained that on the Rosetta Stone, above the Greek text, the text was "lines, keys and other symbols". The sentence intitiated our work to understand what that those inscriptions mean. We assumed that Slavs were literate prior to St Kiril and Metodij. The problem with the current research is that it assumes that Ancient Macedonians were illiterate amongst all of their successes in forming an empire, a country with all the elements of a contemporary civilisation. That is non-sense. We can not accept this thought. It is very unusual that present day historians to believe that a civilisation who, prior to writing the Rosetta Stone, survived for 300 years without having their language in literary form.

*Has your team made a comparison between the text on the Rosetta Stone with current data on the ancient inhabitants of Macedonia, for example the Pannonians?

- No, however we according to working out data for the vinccansko writing. In the monograph of Ljubomir Domazetovikj, he has tabled a revision of symbols found in Vincca. There are 17 identical symbols with the middle text on the Rosetta Stone, and Vincca is not very far from Macedonia. That means, the artefacts from Vincca and from Egypt have the same syllabic meanings! Further, on one old piece of text on a plate found deep underground (8.48m) in Vincca dated 7000 years prior to the new era, we found writing with the same symbols.

See Vincca culture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture

How do you read that text, specifically in reference to decoding the middle text from Rosetta?

- "Se' vo svojot Bog". In the monograph, Grinevikj, the three vertical strokes placed next to each other are decoded as "Boga". The same symbol is present in the texts of the 10th century, found in Russia, in the territories around St.Petersberg and Moscow. "Se' vo Svojot Bog" (Everything in your own God). This expression is still used today. The people of Vincca wrote the message of Ccinija with their practical language, which they used daily to remind them of God. This was our additional stimulant to deciphre the text found on the Rosetta Stone. We still haven't discovered everything there is to know. Until now, the symbols were not given adequate attention, because they indicate writing. These symbols, in the designated periods, were met in almost all pieces of text in old european civilisations. We uncovered identical symbols of old writings even as far as the American Indians in Canada's north. These are identical symbols of syllabic alphabets. The famous Mathematician Kandar used the same symbols in the 16 century to write numbers. The authority of the symbols contests all suspicions. The same symbols were used in europe prior to the dominance of the Latin script.

SYLLABIC WRITING, SIMILAR TO THE LETTER SYSTEM

* Have you sent the results of your research to the relevant international institutions, specifically to the Oriental Institute in Chicago, which has been spending the most amount of time researching the artifact and proposing the thesis (currently understood by the international historical community) that the middle text is written in a demotic text?

- Yes, our findings were sent to the Institute. So far there have been no reactions, nor a reply. The institute has been working in this field for over 50 years. It would be difficult for them to deal with the news that they made a mistake in translating the artifact, for which they have written and published many books and spent a lot of money. In the deciphered version produced by our colleagues in Chicago, we found many contradictions. The word "elenion" which signifies "hellenic", they translate as "ionic". We also identify the word "danajde", which means "na Danajcite" [i think it's something to do with a waterwheel]. The term Danajci existed in ancient Egypt. I don't know how the students who research the text concentrated on the idea that the so-called demotic was an official language of the country at that time, when we read that that is "writing to the living rulers." That is related to the middle text of the stone. The Living Ruler is the Pharaoh, and he is from the dynasty of Ptolemny, dscendant of Ptolemny Soter, the first general of Alexander the Macedonian, from the Ancient Macedonians. A synonym for Ptolemnians is Ancient Macedonians. This is logical and it is absolutely a simple answer to the riddle. When England took over India and their half a billion citizens a few hundred years ago, English became an official language in India. This was the same with our country. When Serbians ruled here, the official language was Serbian, when the Bulgars ruled, Bulgarian. This is normal, and it has always been so throughout history. The conqueror, the victor always imposed their mother language. When the Rosetta Stone was inscribed, the Ptolemians had been ruling Egypt for 120 years. It is normal that they used their language as an official one. They were from the city Ptolomaida, 50km from today's Bitola, in the Republic of Macedonia.

* Did your team find similarities between your and the demotic translations which even today are still understood in the world as being valid?

- You can write in spanish, english, french, german and croatian using the latin script. The Alphabet is the same, the symbols are the same, there are only small differences. Think about a german speaking German, reading Miroslav Krlezza written in Croatian?! It is not enough to only recognise the alphabet, it is also important to know the language. Around 700 years prior to the new era, Egyptians wrote with this alphabet in their language, Persians and the people of Vincca also wrote with this alphabet. This is a typical syllabic alphabet for enunciation, for various languages. The differences and characteristics are dictated by the language. The Ptolemnians didn't use the demotic script as an official script. Ptolemnians made many changes when they began to rule. They made changes both in their literature and language. This was a smart move, they kept their writing, and like a newspaper they wove their language. They introduced yet another new aspect- ligatures (characters that combine multiple letters, maximum of three) which are not present in demotic scripts. We deduced that they quite often used the the syllable "na", which in todays Macedonian language is also quite common [meaning "on" in english]. Adding to the symbol "j" for the word "na", they formed the superlative "naj" [most] as is the case in the modern Macedonian language. We now know how to read the simple and complex characters.

* What are the simple characteristics of the ancient Macedonian writings?

- The writing is free, and very similar to alphabetic, because they used very few characters. They used 25 consonants, 8 vowels and a few pictographic symbols. This is similar to the total number of symbols in todays alphabets. This writing is the most accomplished version of the syllabic writings. Later it was not easy to move on to alphabetic writing.

ACADEMICS ARE SILENT

* How are your american colleagues reacting to your findings?

- I have not heard a negative response from official experts in this field, except ignorance and refusal to meet to discuss the topic. I am all for holding dialogue with all that can contribute, specifically with international historians who have taken the wrong path in solving this problem. We would be satisfied to see the truth shine in the light of day. In science and history this is very important. The fact that we're not specialists in the area of linguistics means that we don't have access to periodicals or symposiums. Coming from the Macedonian side, it is rare that anyone gives us the time of day. There is a boycott from Academia, they don't want to talk about it. They are closing themselves in, saying that they aren't experts in that area and they call it "science fiction". However my colleague Blazze Ristovski, not one from the department of linguistics came to present to MANU. They didn't come out, not even to congratulate nor critique our work. I don't understand, especially in this phase, when people don't recognise our language, our name, our church, our nation and yet this knowledge has presented us with a huge opportunity.

*Why is that so?

- There are many reasons! They are complaining about making a move that will break their integrity. We came out corrageously and we presented our findings to those who did not believe us. If an attitude that Ancient Macedonians were illiterate prevails around us here in Macedonia, what kind of reactions can we expect from the world? We feel great anxiety in the conscience that we [Republic of Macedonia] are propagating something illogical. However, everyone should have an opinion, even if it is negative. In the case that it is negative, we will put our arguments on the table and prove our points. If they rush to their ideas that the leader that conquered the world was illiterate in his mother tongue, then we have no basis for discussion. If however, they are slightly critical about this, we would show our proposition at once.

* How would you describe the reactions of the public?

- For linguists this uncovers many new details, not only for regional but also international research. Our results are good. The cocequences from the verification of our discovery can be very large for many reasons, in that today they have validated our country. The problems hovering around the recognition our people and our heritage can now cease. Until now noone in the world believed our point of view, however until now we didn't have such cohesive proof. They still adress Macedonian as "slavomacedonian." This discovery can uncover fundamental flaws in history, in the history of the Balkans, in the world and in international research, and to secure the position of Ancient Macedonians in civilisation. We secured adequate and firm proof that since ancient times we have been present on this land. Traces of the ancient Macedonian language would not have reached the modern Macedonian language if we were'nt related to the ancient Macedonians. The language is that of the Ptolemnians, and in that time it was blossoming to have the most sophisticated form. We don't need to gain approval from anyone, because we have firm, logical proof.

* How robust are the details of the discovery?

- This is the first time we have come accross a valid document that was certainly written by Ancient Macedonians. We can see who they were and how they spoke. We have been presented with a tool to bring us closer to the enunciation of that ethnos in that point in time. I will elaborate, it is nonsense to believe that Ancient Macedonians did not write in their mother tongue.

The Ancient macedonian language is most similar to the language of the Pelagonia region, that of the Bitola-Lerin dialect.

- We were stunned at how much has remained in the modern Macedonian language, even in the gramatical sense. The nouns had the plurals "leto-leti", "gospodar-gospodari". They use articles and pronouns. One characteristic is that they used "s" quite often, which is also characteristic of the modern Macedonian language. No other nation in the region uses "s" as often as modern Macedonians. The language is most similar to the dialect of the Pelagonia and the Bitola-Lerin region. We don't need to wait or contend that they spoke a similar language to today's Macedonian language. It's a fact that a considerable amount of the ancient language remains in the words of today's language. Now our linguistic knowledge must be understood and the whole text decoded. We've found elements, however it is far from the whole story that is contained in the text.

Vesna Ivanovska.

Finally, the Lerin-Bitola hillbilly dialect gets some respect. Woo Hoo!!!

Great translation MKD.

Merci

MKD, linkcheto ne raboti

Prednitsi=future generations. Potomtsi=ancestors.

Great Translation MKD. I've started e-mailing your trans to everyone I know.

Istor and Chukalo, Who's your Daddy?

What do you guys think is the best way to organise press releases of this information?

I would imagine a more concise summary of the findings with a bit more "drama" thrown in would be a good idea.

Risto the Great

other way around, pred (before) ci = ancestors, Potom (after) ci = descendants, future generations

Yes, thanks for the translation - this is great. You guys should really go out and publish this as much as possible. You will be the laughing stock of the international archaeological community. Make sure that the British Museum, the home of the Rosetta Stone, knows about this too.



So Tome Bosevski's own colleagues from MASA think his “discovery” is “science fiction”. Good start when your own colleagues are ridiculing you.



So Bosevski and Tentov think they know better than both the local and international scientific community? Why ignore not just the international experts in the field but your own academics on the topic? Maybe because it dosen't fit in with the agenda of two unqualified engineering academics who delve into a field they know nothing about in order to produce evidence for a conclusion they have already agreed upon in their own minds? Of course their "research" was not going to produce anything other than results which concurred their preconceived conclusions. Otherwise why would these two bother?



Yes indeed, the authors of such works as “Energy-Related GHG Emission Analyses and Abatement Options” and “Performance Analysis of ATM Switches with Multistage Multipath Packet Switching Interconnection Networks” who themselves admit “the fact that we're not specialists in the area of linguistics”, have made a great discovery that no one else could see for the 200 years since the Rosetta Stone's discovery.



Why would there be? Why would this learned institution waste its time?



So Bosevski and Tentov would have us believe that this Institute, and the other academics from the US universities and from around the world who have studied the Rosetta Stone since its discovery over 200 years ago, have made a “mistake”, and that two retired engineering academics from the Electro-technical faculty in Skopje have discovered the “truth” as to its Demotic Egyptian inscription.



No negative response? Thats because as you said previously "so far there have been no reactions, nor a reply". Once again, why would the world's experts bother? Why waste their time with this pseudo-science and science fiction.



Yes, the international historians have taken a “wrong path” from which only the engineers of Skopje can enlighten them with the “truth”. I hope that some international historians do decide to hold dialogue with you and embarrass you in the manner you deserve Messers Bosevski and Tederov. You should really stick to engineering.



That’s right, you are not specialists in this field – you are two old, retired engineers who know nothing of linguistics yet claim that the experts have made “mistakes” and have “taken the wrong path”. Yes, you are well qualified to make such statements.



That’s right, can you think why?



Again, why would they waste their time with such trash? Don't you think that Academia both in your country and internationally have better things to do than address such rubbish?



Why would MANU bother? Even your own academic institutions know not to waste their time with this trash.



Ah, so this is the motivation behind your “discovery.” Pseudo-science provides you with your logical proof. And yes, you “don’t need to gain approval from anyone” because no one in their right mind will give it to you.



What can you expect from the world? Ridicule and laughter, that’s what. The world knows that ancient Macedonians were not illiterate – they very well know the language and dialect that they spoke. It is only in your country, as you state, that the claim is made about illiteracy simply because you believe they spoke Slavic and so illiteracy is the only way to justify in your minds the complete absence of archaeological, historical and scholarly evidence for this absurd claim.



So you should feel anxious with such rubbish.



No one thinks that Alexander was illiterate but you.



Yes you are right, its is nonsense, there is plenty of evidence of their writings. Pity you refuse to acknowledge and understand this.



Really, this is what your linguistic “engineering” tells you? That demotic Egyptian is really a Slavic dialect from Bitola-Lerin?

Bravo Bratke! Well done!

Great translation!
Truly amazing, if only someone would listen

Thanks for the translation MKD, a real step in the right direction. Maybe some of the ignorant who read here and provide blind comments should realize that it is not a case of Macedonian academics thinking they "outsmarted" the 200 year old British and American efforts(funny how brits and yanks are more experts on ancient greek than the modern neo hellenes themselves :wink: ), but it is simply the case of scholars usings broader techniques and a broader language which has never been given a chance prior due to the so-called Slavic "migration" theory. Once this theory crumbles, and it will, these Macedonian scholars wont seem so science-fiction to the rest, so enjoy your place of ignorance while we revel in our place of progress.

Yes, there is a big difference between revelling in progress and revelling in the fictitious. The ignorant are those that believe in science fiction and clasp onto these straws of false hope in the belief that it will somehow justify their bogus convictions.

For your ignorant edification:

From “Chicago Demotic Dictionary”, Janet H. Johnson, The Oriental Institute 2002-2003 Annual Report:



English scientist Thomas Young was also one of the first who successfully deciphered the demotic and hieroglyphic texts of the Rosetta Stone in the early 18th century. By 1814 he had completely finished translating the demotic text of the Rosetta Stone, and a few years later had made considerable progress towards an understanding of the hieroglyphic alphabet.

Ignorance says that there were no Slavs in bc therefore no need to try and connect it with ancient langauges, logic says that they should be compared to see if there are any matches, progess reveals that Slavic has a distinct and undeniable relationship with Thracian, Phrygian, Illyrian and Macedonian, therefore will naturally have much more with others.

Ignorance says that Slavs have no connection to ancient history, logic says that Sun-God "Apollo" is connected to Slavic "Opale"(meaning to light up) and the Sun-God's mother called "Leto" is connected to Slavic "Leto"(meaning summer), progress reveals that we are heading in the right direction while you are still a Prosfigo from Asia that thinks Socrates is your ancestor.

These British and American scholars haven't even given Slavic a chance, if they did so they can see the overwhelming similarities and in some cases such as Apollo/Leto where they are virtually identical, they would definetly change their tone. Like I said, enjoy your ignorance, tamu ke ostanis.

Whos logic? Yours? Give me a break. Back it up with independent and objective research, not your clasping for straws logic. The West have examined these ancient people for eons, don't you think they would have made some connection by now if there seriously was one there? BTW, how are you coming along with your efforts on Wikipedia? I've seen your contributions there come to nought. Are they still shunting you out on your backside in the discussion pages?

And if you are going to insult, do some research before you call me a "Prosfigo from Asia". My ancestors are from Corinth, Sikyon and Yaroslavl, Russia, Mr so-called "Full-blooded Macedonian". Check your background son, maybe the odd Asiatic Tatar and Ante may pop in now and again.

Back up? My language is the back up, I don't need Winston or Byron to stroke me and tell me what I am, as they did with your counterfit puppet nation.

No, the universal logic of attempting and comparing all languages and not just the Greek one, get it through your skull that these people have not even contemplated using Slavic as a decoder, so how can you or they be so sure when there is so much evidence to the contrary? So I need some Brit or Yankee to tell me that Leto and Leto are connected? Yes, yes, I know of you and your educators, if the Brits wanted to make you ignorant fools believe you are the ancient Sumerians they could have, such is the ignorance and stupidness in the former Turk province, you were created on the basis of a western fascination of the ancient period, YOU have NOTHING to do with ancient Greece. You provide alot of hot air while conveniently avoiding what doesn't suit you, and what's this about Wikipedia? The last time I posted there was about 6months to a year ago, possibly even more, and for your information go on the discussion page and see how just ONE MACEDONIAN got all those greeks jumping up and down like monkeys, and as usual no answers just hot air, maybe you were one of them. I specifically remember burying stupid greek propaganda there when I suddenly appeared with all these texts and quotes that people like you try and conceal. By the way, my dedication is here, not at Wikilliar, that is the dwelling of greeks and other lying asiatic types.

The only one clasping on straws is you, you are holding on so tight to these last pieces of falsity that "connect" you to the ancients, while we are PROGRESSING FORWARD. So don't get your "Stomaki" in a twist

My ancestors are all from Macedonia, my parents, their parents, their parents, their parents, e.t.c. Prosfigo isn't an insult, it is the truth, if it wasn't for the 22-3' population exchange, you would still be harvesting your crop in Ankara.

Ha! Ha! You obviously read nothing or refuse to understand what was stated. Greeks from Corinth and Russians from Yaroslavl are Prosfigi are they? Learn history and geography dude.

Keep up the insults and the reliance on your so-called logic. And oh yeah, keep struggling for this forum because thats as far as you will go with your crackpot theories. I still don't see your theories on the article pages of Wikipedia - whose arse was kicked?

BTW, if Bosevski and Tentov get any sort of acceptance by the Academic circles both in RoM and internationally, then I will gladly bow down to you as the true Mr "Full-Blooded Macedonian". Remember, these guys are ridiculed by academic circles WITHIN their own country, which have they stated themselves in the article about them.

Time will tell - good luck, you will need it!

I always have tartar sauce with my fish and chips so I know I have some tartar in me.

But seriously, BoC has bitch-slapped this 'Rosetta Stone' thing nicely. I feel bruised.


The Koine inscriptions are not the ancient Macedonian mother tongue.

Why would an allegedly Greek speaking society adopt Koine to communicate with Greeks?

Macedon was the dominant military power of its age. Why would it not impose it's own supposedly 'Greek' tongue on its neighbours to the South?

The Macedonians had no qualms about killing and subjugating the Greek city states why then would they adopt 'their' dialect to communicate with them? That's awfully civilised considering they just butchered and subdued them.

Maybe the ancient Macedonian mother tongue wasn't Greek. Maybe their barbarian tongue was actually a barbarian tongue. We know that Greeks had a hard time understanding Macedonians and often found them unintelligible.

In any case there's no way those Koine inscriptions reflect the mother tongue of the ancient Macedonians. Koine was adopted because the Macedonians appear not to have had a written language.

The Macedonian aristocracy was trained to read and write in Greek. We do know there was a Macedonian mother tongue but we don't know what it is because it was oral and is long gone.

Have you never thought that the language which you think is long gone is still alive??? How do you know that macedonian today is not the macedonian from 2000 years ago? We need more research about this matter but till more data are discovered I would not give such a claim like "its long gone". If so, than who gave us our language, did we got it from the sky???

Was it only oral language is also not sure! We know that officially no written material stayed from our ancestors, but it doesn't mean such material never existed!

Its known that Romans brought to Rome the written history of macedonian state and "officially " these books are lost. We don't know in which language they were written but maybe it was not koine. I personally don't believe that Macedonans were iliterate although modern science claim so.

Antioch

I'd like the translation to be checked so that misunderstandings aren't made. I'm not extremely confident to release it in its current form. I think Yannis is probably the best person to review this, because his levels of Macedonian and English are both very high.



hah... i almost laughed. You of all people should know the way politics and academia function by now. You talk about "the west" as if it is some magical land where all things are free and just and untarnished by corruption, manipulation and greed. Believe me, the cold war very much meant a "good and evil" mentality in the capitalist and communist world. This meant that these "prestigious western" scientists and researches you keep referring to were much more comfortable taking the Greek side on the argument. After all, Greece was on the same side of the Cold War, was it not?

People in the western world whose family backgrounds are from the capitalist side of the cold war do not think of the more realistic picture of the west. They believe that it is a utopic system, which is fundamental to the right of freedom. Similarly, prior to 1990, people living in communist countries did not have an accurate picture of the west. They viewed it as a wild jungle of greedy people where you are not treated as a human being, but as a tool to fulfil someone else's greed.

We all know that these perceptions are not the case in reality. In reality, it is somewhere in between.

Now, let's have a look at communities such as us, Macedonian Australians (or any other community whose ancestral country was part of communism). We have seen/are seeing both sides of the story, and spotting a conspiracy or coverup is much easier when you question the fundamental motives of an entire socio-economic system. This is something that people of "western" ancestry are not exposed to question.

So, trying to flaunt this whole "western academics" bullshit in our face won't get you very far. Perhaps it is convenient to believe this from your perspective, but believe me, the cold war is over and the safety net is gone.



Many people will laugh at the fact that they are engineers and not linguists. Remember, the aim was to "decode" the script. Believe me, it is not such a stretch to decode a language compared to various signal modulation schemes. It takes the same kind of brain.

Oh, and just think about it. How could you possibly find a better qualified person to decode this? An electrical engineer with a high level of mathematical ability that also knows the Macedonian, the language he is trying to compare the text to. Let me tell you this, a "linguist" in a prestigious western university (with no knowledge in the modern macedonian language) rates at about a tenth of the ability of the Macedonian engineers that tackled the problem.

Even so, let a linguist give it a go and see what happens!



You have brought up another significant point. Macedonia/Macedonians have undergone a great deal of "conditioning" themselves. The RoM was occupied from the early 20th century until the early 90s by serbs. At the time, the official line of history was that slavs immigrated to the balkans in the 6th century. These academics in MANU/MASA still prescribe to this theory. It is sad from our perspective, but this is the result of social conditioning.

Another thing. The government is probably trying to be quite careful as to how they react or release this information. They are in an important time at the moment, and timing is everything. If they are seen to be funding a project that proves that modern Macedonians are the decendents of ancient Macedonians, it will be seen by our neighbours (namely Greece and Bulgaria), as a territorial ambition. Macedonia simply doesn't have the superpower support to get away with publishing or sponsoring such research.

The greatest thing about this, and the reason why all of us are smirking, is that they have conducted research and they believe that the Macedonian language has been maintained over the past millenia. It has been proposed, and the stone is that famous around the world, and anyone can give it a go. There is no way anyone (whoever it may be) can cover up any lies that may have been constructed. Sooner or later, the Macedonian lanugage will be used by western academics to decode the middle script and you will be stunned , so just hold off your laughter for the moment and we'll see who should be laughing in the near future.

Like any language the Macedonian langage today isn't even the same langage from 500 years ago, let alone 2500 years ago.

The only way you can have a pure langage that stays the same for 3,000 years is to fake it and lie about it like the Greeks. Modern Greek is an artificial reincarnation of ancient Greek.

I have no doubt many ancient Macedonian words still exist in the Modern Macedonian language but there's no way it's the same language.

Lets leave the nonsense and politics aside - one point needs to made:

Usage of Demotic is attested in Egypt from the mid 6th century - yes, thats right, 250 years before the start of the Ptolemaic dynasty.

Demotic has been found on stelae from the temple of Serapis at Saqqara from around 600BC. It is attested in pre-Ptolemaic administrative, legal and commercial inscriptions as well as a few literary compositions and scientific and religious texts.

Demotic also forms the basis for the Coptic script, with seven Demotic characters still surviving in Coptic.

Now, given that Demotic pre-dates the Ptolemies by some 250 years, how do you explain that it is Slavic? Did the ancient Egyptians speak and write in Slavic as well?

Even a cursory review of the origins and history of Demotic shows it pre-dates the period on which Bosevski and Tentov refer to. Their analysis is simply nonsense and that is why it has been treated as such both in RoM and around the world.

What are you talking??? Did Macedonians from 15th Century spoke an alien language??? I never said it must be 100% same, of course language change by time, but you dont get macedonian into greek or turkish in 500 years, this would be a miracle!!!

I only wanted to point that it may easily be that our language today is a natural evolution of a language spoken by Macedonians 2000 years ago. Nothing more, nothing less...

Antioch