did you guys know Picasso donated one of his painting's to Skopje after the earthquake?




Picasso with painting visible on right.


The painting was stolen but apparently it has been returned.





More importantly, to fix the city, apparently Tito organised Albanian's from Kosovo and Southern Serbia to fix the city of Skopje, once Skopje was fixed he allowed them to stay by giving them property etc.

also, how many of you kid's know about the scandal in 1995 organised by SDSM to allow 150,000 Albanians from Kosovo and other parts of Serbia to live in Macedonia by rigging up citizenships, this was done by SDSM just to save their coalitian with PDP.

[17] For the legislative parallel action compare: Law on Citizenship of the Republic of Macedonia. In: Official newspaper of the Republic of Macedonia No. 67 from 3 November 1992, 1245-1248, according to which one could obtain citizenship of the Republic of Macedonia only if one was born on the territory of the new state or this was their place of living for at least the first 15 years of their life. About 150,000 people, i.e almost 8% of the population, did not fulfil this criterion at the time.

150,000 PEOPLE WITHOUT CITIZENSHIP
According to information from the Interior Ministry,
150,000 people have no grounds to obtain a Macedonian
citizenship. Namely, these are citizens who, at the present, do
not have a residence in Macedonia (do have personal I.D. cards
from the former SFRY and SRM and other documents for their stay
in Macedonia, but yet do not fulfill the conditions for obtaining
citizenship). In large part, these people are mostly Albanians
who have settled in Macedonia in different periods. Presently,
they do not meet the basic conditions - that their parents be
born in Macedonia, to have been living in Macedonia constantly in
the past 15 years, or as a third possibility, to be married to a
citizen of the Republic of Macedonia, during the past three
years.
According to the statutory provisions, all of these
citizens will have to regulate they stay in Macedonia as
foreigners, until they meet the conditions for obtaining a
Macedonian citizenship.
Today's "Vecer" writes that the determination of this
amazing figure of 150,000 of non-citizens of Macedonia, opens a
new and very specific problem for regulation of the status of
this category of citizens. These people have become "apatrides",
people who don't have a "mother" state due to various reasons. It
is clear that a good part of these people do not have any chances
whatsoever of obtaining a citizenship of the FRY, and it is
unknown whether they want to return there at all, or whether they
would be accepted there if they went back.
Apparently, a solution is anticipated through the
preparation of separate legal acts for the stay of foreigners in
Macedonia (such a law already exists and it will most probably be
supplemented or a completely new law would be adopted) which will
regulate the future stay of citizens of this category, in
Macedonia.

Well do the math. If their number now is 430 000 and they represent ~~25% -150 000 that would be 280 000 which will be even less percentage. Ahhh stupid government... deport them before more problems arise!!!

Without that number their percentage is less than 15% !!!!

the real number is like 200,000 according to officials in Macedonia, however it was 150,000 in 1995 alone that were given citizenship.
SDSM just to save their coalitian with PDP found a way to give the Albanians citizenship which a breaach of the law of citizenship in Macedonia.

VMRO had the best option at the current time for these illegal Albanians who were in Macedonia at the time, give them civil rights but refrain from giving them illegal citizenships.

Love how this is their plan until this day, they all say the same this country belongs to us just as much to you we have to share it with them.
No macedonian nation state.

I love it how either a multi cultural state or solely a Bulgarian/Serbian one.

Bit fucking contradictory isn't it you inbred glupak?

You're right Komita this is all they want and talk of integration makes me chuckle. Exactly how will these people integrate when week after week they make statements like this.

I can forsee SDSM floating away into oblivion for the next 10 or 20 years. It is clear to me that it has too much stale and corrupt blood and they are in sore need of a formal party crisis and a major change in people.

Hopefully this will happen.

I was not aware of SDSM's citizenship orgy. Should have done what the Greeks did, throw them out.

SDSM's coalitian with PDP was more important, they only saw votes and not what was best for Macedonia, 4 year's in government was what they wanted.

People the main reason for the 150,000 people without citizenship is due to the prior law that existed where one needed 15 years of continuess residence in RoM - now as far as I know most of these people were living outside RoM in western countries at the time of the break up of Yugoslavia, and many due to not living in RoM at the time of independence didnt apply for citizenship or to be issued with a new Macedonian passport in 91/92 even though they had been born in macedonia which entitled them to citizenship automaticaly, but due to many being guest workers abroad and not residing inside RoM for lage periods of time, and the slow and maybe "delibarate" non processing of doucument for these people led to the cration of these "citzenless people"

Now I'm not saying that there we NO Albanian from either sothern serbia or kosova who in 95 were living in RoM & had lived there for less than 15 years which didn't entitle them to citizenship - BUT to say that these 150,000 Albanians were ALL born outside RoM is totaly 100% wrong and missleading....

Then why is it when you go to Macedonia, most of the Albanian's are speaking Serb then claiming they are speaking Macedonian.

What do you mean MOST Albanian are speaking serb then claim they are speaking macedonian? That is another fabrication in reality only a small percentage speaks "serbian"

i didn't clarify where, this is in Tetovo and Kumanovo.

How can these people have no citizenship's if they were born in Macedonia but lived abroad?

I was born in Macedonia.
My family migrated to Australia when I was 3 years old.

I'm a citizen and I have my Macedonian birth certificate.
Albo's claim is baseless.

That is what im getting at, how the hell can they have been born in Macedonia and had no citizenship, if the law states they have to be active in the country (Macedonia) for 15 years (i think they made it 10 years a few years ago) and they lived abroad, naturally they breached the requirements to obtain citizenship, i think citizenship for people like this need's to be reviewed and if found that they received the citizenship illegaly it should be revoked.