His troops for the most part dressed thus: their hair is close shaved before, and flowing behind. On the top of the head they wear a small red cap, with a purple tuft at the top, and the Albanian vest of a dark colour, thickly and lavishly embroiderd with red silk, fringed at the borders. So far is common to almost all the Albanian Greeks they have under that a close waist coat, generally of the same description: at their waist is a leathern girdle, loaded with a brace of pistols, a ramrod, and daggar: across their back is slung from their shoulder their long gun, and a scimitar by their side: loose trousers to the knee, stockings the same as the coat, and shoes of leather and twined cord, complete their establishment. Their arms are more or less splendid, according to the purse of the wearer; and, as handsome arms are the passion of the inhabitants of Turkey, they are generally very superbly ornamented with silver.

The Literary Gazette by John Mounteney Jephson & others, page 421

http://books.google.com/books?id=2xGWe9 ... #PPA421,M1

why do you greeks, when you cannot answer something you always go on the defence and just scream out "MACEDONIA IS 4020430220 Years Greek" and other nonsense, why dont you just talk about the subject at hand and defend your point there, other wise dont bother posting.

Actually this book is about the Philhellenes and how they regretted the creation of modern "greece". It never gets into Macedonia or the Macedonians.
I like the squirming alot of you modern "greeks" do when it comes to your recent past. Why don't you comment on how one of your presidents was Albanian and didn't speak a word of "greek"?

Vergina, why don't you be historically honest and change your name to Istanbul. You people come from Turkey, not Macedonia.

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fr ... ref=slogin

Here's a NY Times article from 1881. The title is; 'The Greeks and Albanians' about the many races in Corfu and how they "share" a festival

Nice TM, very nice indeed No doubt links to these pages will be made on countless Albanian web pages as a resource for their legitimate claims to Steria Ellatha (Stara Grcja)

TrueMacedonian, it's time to start moving your recent posts either to the history section or the archive.

It's Sterea ellada...

go have a Turksko Cafe - you're ancient history here sega

So you do kmow about your history. Shut the fuck up the and listen when we talk about ours then

http://books.google.com/books?ct=result ... bouboulina

BOUBOULINA
In 1801 a young widow (Bouboulina) from the island of Hydra near Athens married Demetrios Bouboulis, a shipowner from the neighboring island of Spetses.....she herself was to be connected with the secret Philiki Eteria....She came from a group of islands where Albanian was spoken, but where the orthodox church gave a sense of greek identity.

It goes on to say;

Greece's national struggle produced many stories of women's patriotism. The village of Souli in Epirus is specifically venerated. After their menfolk were taken by the Ottomans in 1801, the women and children of the village gathered on the edge of the cliff to perform the dance of Zallongos. Each of the women led by the swirling circle in turn, before leaping over the cliff to her death, till none were left. Modern greek schoolgirls re-enact the dance, leaping off the stage onto a pile of mattresses, and singing the Zallongos song:

Fish cant live on land
And flowers cant blossom on sand;
The women of Souli can't understand
Life without freedom

Europe by Norman Davies page 732.

only problem is they had to translate the song from its original in albanian to modern greek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3wjNpVnyFA

Here's a bunch of modern "greek" girls re-enacting the albanian death dance

This Bavarian Hellenism garbage they practice in Modern Greece is nothing more than a cult designed to fuck with the heads of the simpleton Ottoman Christians that have nowadays been taught to speak Greek.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ns15TQHIS ... re=related

and this little gem

://au.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dm0XgmWb5U&feature=related

http://www.jstor.org/pss/881312

Delacroix's fascination with the near east in the 1820's in part as a result of his interest in the Greek War for Independance, accounts for a number of studies of oriental costumes, among which the best known are perhaps his oil sketches of representing dancing Souliots.
A water colour of Two Albanians, in a private collection in Athens, can now be related to this group of works. Two chieftans are shown within a landscape that recedes towards a low distant horizon. The man on the left poses in rather stiff contrapposto. His companion sits cross-legged, oriental style. The standing man wears a white kilt, and embroiderd vest and sash typical of Albanian dress.

Of Suliots, Arnauts, Albanians and Eugene Delacroix by Nina Athanassoglou-Kallmyer.

This is the painting of the first description.


I am still looking for that second painting described in the 2nd paragraph.

There is a load of stuff on UTube about Bouboulina, Kolokotroni and Co. The Greeks are fighting the Albanians in declaring these peoples "Greekness" the same way "Greeks" spead their propaganda about Macedonia. Fatso and I had this conversation some time ago now about how an Epirot Prince was Greek. He posted a link to UTube and Greek was not mentioned in the clip. He was from Epirus and used the Orthodox flag as his flag.

Albanians are onto the Greeks about this. Perhaps one of them would like to join us here and tell us more.

There is a Vlashki pesna my mum told me about the other day she had to learn in when she was young. I'll ask her about it again and put up some of the lyrics here. It is quite interesting and relevant to this topic.

How about the other philhellenes and what they liked to wear (by the way a Pallikar is reference to Albanian fustenella):