No offense buddy buy you are a little delusional.

There are Greek populations still speaking Greek in Turkey, Russia, Southern Italy and onwards. How were they tutored ? There is nothing that will change your version of history that has developed in your head.

You talk of a bastardization of Greek, yet I am the one that speaks it. Comically it is yours that is hardly any different from Bulgarian but that will change soon as it will become Albanian. Look at your capital Skopjia where in the center you get street signs in Albanians and your language.

Do you like museums, there's an Albanian freedom fighters museum with a Map of greater Albania inside. I am sure you are doing it because you care about their freedom of expression

Do you go to Church, care to read

Epistle to the Thessalonians by saint Paul. Written in Greek, to Greeks living in a city called Thessaloniki. He didn't write it in English .. so he calls it Thessaloniki ... where do you think that is ? Care to explain why Turks found so many Greeks living in your country as well as Turks at the turn of the century ? Where did they go ? Why do you have so many mosques in your country ?

You can foam at the mouth, all I am doing is honing my skills debating people of your persuasion. You just collect all your absurdities in one place, so that is good for me, you will never change, I know that. You will just be outvoted by Albanians one day ...

<GAME OVER>

There is no <game over> because you THINK that a museum or a few mosques will bring Macedonia down. This is just rhetorical modern "greek" racism that you were taught from your racist school teachers, politicians, and family members. Again the best modern "greek" defense when their identity is questioned is to ask questions and avoid the topic on hand. The people speaking modern "greek" in asia minor and russia are the merchant class that picked up the language just to specify a better class over the peasant class and the church services were possibly held in "greek" although in some cases it was held in Turkish(hence why you are christian turks from asia minor). All your recent heroes are anything but hellenic. Your Papparigopolous history is a sham history. It was written to counter the claims of Fallmerayer. You keep mentioning ancient history and you have nothing to do with the ancient race of Hellenes.
Last warning, anyone tries to steer this topic or any topic off topic will have their posts deleted.

1. There are Greek populations still speaking Greek in Turkey, Russia, Southern Italy and onwards. How were they tutored ?

There are Macedonian populations outside of the natural borders that also speak Macedonian, thanks to our tutors, also known as our grandmas.

2.There is nothing that will change your version of history that has developed in your head.

Likewise.

3.You talk of a bastardization of Greek, yet I am the one that speaks it. Comically it is yours that is hardly any different from Bulgarian but that will change soon as it will become Albanian.

Do you speak Macedonian? What do you know about the similarities? How much do you know about the grammar of my language?

4. Do you like museums, there's an Albanian freedom fighters museum with a Map of greater Albania inside. I am sure you are doing it because you care about their freedom of expression

The map of Greater Albania includes a part of you country; seems like we're going to be fighting the same war as allies?!?!

5. Epistle to the Thessalonians by saint Paul. Written in Greek, to Greeks living in a city called Thessaloniki. He didn't write it in English .. so he calls it Thessaloniki ... where do you think that is ? Care to explain why Turks found so many Greeks living in your country as well as Turks at the turn of the century ? Where did they go ? Why do you have so many mosques in your country ?

Greek: Lingua Franca

Thessalonica: a coastal city of Macedonia, modern Solun in northeastern Greece since 1913

In the "Holy Scriptures" Macedonia is mentioned as a biblical country, biblical people, Macedonia and Macedonians, separate from Greeks.

In as far as the Greeks and Turks in the Republic of Macedonia... care to tell me where they went? Your question suggests that you know the answer. Furthermore, please explain what you are trying to imply with the statement about the mosques; I can't answer this without further clairification of your question.

6.You can foam at the mouth, all I am doing is honing my skills debating people of your persuasion. You just collect all your absurdities in one place, so that is good for me, you will never change, I know that. You will just be outvoted by Albanians one day ...

TM is not writing these books; you can't accuse him of spreading lies or absurdities... argue with the authors of those books and let them know how you see it fit.


Gorgi, every one of your posts finishes off with the Albanian problem... you don't live in the Republic of Macedonia therefore you don't have to worry about it. Or do you? My sources say that the same problem (Kosovo 1999, Macedonia 2001) is about to appear in your country; have you taken any preventative measures?

This is what Hellenism does. It creates modern "greeks" out of Albanians . And to say Macedonia has an "Albanian problem" is a joke considering more than half the population of modern "greece" are ethnically Albanian.

My point about Greek populations in other countries is how did they come to speak Greek if somehow there was some mass education of all peoples in Greece to speak Greek

The Map of Greater Albania is not a threat to Greece but to your country, as the Albanians hold the balance of power and have a much faster population growth. Your own capital has signs in Albanian and your language. So by what measure do you feel that Greeks are overwhelmed by Albanians ?

I find it weird that in this thread you guys are trying to present that Albanians overwhelmingly populated Greece.
Then some powers stepped into Greece and mass educated all populations with no connection to ancient Greece
and suddenly millions of peoples in minor Asia, Greece, Pontus in a span of half a century became Greeks with distinct dialects and traditions in every nook and cranny and every mountain and coast and every island.

Not only that, and that millions of populations of other faiths have somehow been suppressed. And not only that those millions are the dramatic plurality and the few that are Greeks are so effective in oppression in Greece and in propaganda outside Greece in controlling every nation on earth to do the evil game of Greece. Even better they have manadged with propaganda to have Hellenic departments in most Universities in the world, ignoring the influences in maths and physics and other sciences and arts. Even better we have manadged to convince every aspect of our society that the Greek influence is pervasive.

Even most amazing is what we have achieved with history and it's corruption, that there are hundreds of thousands of scholars pulling the Greek line ?!

All this by a people that do not exist but are a creation of some drugged up poet that died in his 30s and some "super" powers.


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No but you are no better than Jews when it comes to human rights violations and denying ethnic identities and stealing land. Jew + modern "greek"= Real National Socialism.

archive/living-in-an-illusion-t12260.html
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/83773

Would you like some more??? I have plenty more on how you were a created nation, culture, race, etc. You can't believe the things I am showing you because it goes against the grain of what "greek" school taught you. You keep using language as an indicator and I keep showing you that Albanians spoke modern "greek" as well as Vlach and Slavs. Are these actually "Hellenes"???? You don't believe that you were the gleam of Byrons eye and other philhellenes yet on this very topic I have shown you why you are their creations.
You and your kind say that a few million people were brainwashed into believing that they were "Macedonians". I'm telling you that the one million in your land in the 19th century were brainwashed into believing they had something to do with the ancient Hellenes. Do you see the humor I see? How an Albanian like yourself can question me and my people and think that everything about your recent past was a glorious one and that ours was a re-production. I don't think you have fully read this topic. You should start at page one and work your way back to this point. If you need more info on your plastic society I'll be more than happy to give it to you.

Gorgi, we are not the ones that wrote these books! These are history books written by your beloved western authors. It is not us who are "trying" to sabotage your Greekness... My advice to you is to get off your high horse and realize that you live in the BALKANS! We are all the same mixed people divided by freakin' borders and nazi propaganda.

No you don't need to burn in ovens. Your state ideology and the immense propaganda within your terrorist state should be burnt to a crisp.

George Finlay speaks volumes in this one page

You know Finlay was a philhellene. Regardless at what you regard as "ethnic greeks" I assure you these were hellenized Macedonians, Vlachs, Albanians, Jews, etc. But you candidly avoid the obvious as usual. Maybe you should read Osiris' signature as to what Finlay quote he uses

Well, well look at that, you are here as well.... you really don't have a life
One difference between you and the Jews is that at least they are fighting against most people of your blood line, you decided to hide it with some Hellenistic bulshit thing that is one of the biggest jokes in the world. Talk about cowards.

Just a few YouTube Links,
The song in this is sung by an Albanian from Albania in Arvanit/Arberesh Dialect, and has been a hit!!
Also Aristidh Kola, a now dead (just like the 3 other leaders of Arvanites organisiations- all who died in shady circumstances) has written much about Arvanites is also worth further study !!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6yNBG6KCARM


Here a nice Arvanites, song,with paintings of different Albanians in greece during 1800's... can the greeks tell me if they understand any of this? :-)
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=M0vewHKySSM&feature=related


Will have some more soon...

Thank you Albo. Albo I was looking for a few things. One of them is a document that states that Albanian was to be either the main language of modern "greece" or a second legal language. Would you know where I could find this. I've looked up and down and could not find anything.
Also is it true that John Capo D'Istria was Albanian or half Albanian? And can you provide me and this topic a source for that or direct me where to look?
I appreciate your help Albo.

http://books.google.com/books?id=4FEEAA ... t=ALLTYPES

Andreas Vokos ,hellenized Albanian, is Admiral Andreas Miaulis. You see alot of this happening in modern "greece".

Yes I have heard that he was partly Albanian in Origin from the Island of Corfu, but don't know of any sources where to find this info off the top of my head, but I'll keep looking,

A thread on some famous Albanians from greece...
http://p100.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm95.s ... =1&stop=20

albo some more info re the above statement please.

Why are you getting upset Terra? I said I heard he was full Albanian or half. Corfu had alot of Venetians you know Hence the real name of your beloved Ioannes Kapodistrias before he hellenized it was:
John Antonio Capo D'istria. I also read that he could speak modern "greek" basically but he could not read or write the language. Secretarys are a god sent I guess.