Responding to me confirms you know it wasn't worthless. Thanks!

No your post is worthless because you can't stay on topic and need to advertantly bring some type of Macedonian issue into this. Next time this happens you'll get banned.

TM, this info. is nothing new. We all now Greece has a make up of different nationalities, just like any other nation.

I can post just as many articles and books depicting Greece's numbers in comparison with Turk's and Arvanites. Your friend Finlay is pretty clear on the numbers.

Greece doesn't seem to "know" about those different nationalities:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... os/gr.html





I believe that this is what TM is talking about...

That's exactly what I'm talking about Sirma.

Fatso your government first claimed ethnic purity ( ) and then when Fallmerayer challenged modern "greek" identity Paparrigopoulos had to devise a scheme to claim cultural continuity or what Droysen and the Germans have given you, 'hellenism'. This scheme claims that there was never ever any break in this cultural continuity. The problem of the ancient Macedonians (who many modern "greek" scholars in the late 18th and early 19th century viewed as invaders) was the issue. Droysen gave that one to you when he claimed the obsurdity of Alexander spreading this 'hellenism' on his conquests. Paparrigopoulos incorporated this lie with his schemes and appropriated Byzantine history as exclusively "greek" which of course is another big lie. As for your recent history oh fat one I am still looking for these ethnic "greeks" that fought for their independence. However things like this make me question your nations myth of 'hellenism';




I only post page 65 to show you that Tom Winnifrith is the author of this piece in the book (which had many contributors to it).



And according to Hammond the Albanians pushed the Turks out for "greek" independence. Modern "greece" is one living mythistory.

The ethnic purity claimed by Greece or any country is a complete joke. Arvanites and Vlach's were a fraction of the Greek population...your friend Finlay admits to that himself.

It is called the straw man attack. Claim your opponent argument is something different, and attack that.

Greece never claimed ethnic purity and especially never claimed genetic purity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y. Y is a distorted version of X.
3. Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

Ultimately the claim of cultural continuity is a lie. Plain and simple. And that is what I've demonstrated time and time again.

Today's Modern "Hellenic" culture is a fraud - it's manufactured, it's a government project. It has absolutely nothing to do with cultural continuity and everthing to do with European historical naivite.

Too bad if you think about it, the real history of Greece and the Southern Balkans was completely destroyed by the dumb Arvanovlach and their Bavarian masters.

yeah a fraction something like 3/4 of the population in greece at the time of independence.

OK and they skipped your country which remained in cultural continuity since ancient times especially considering that today 1/3 of the population define them selves as Albanian !!!

gee its 1/3 now and by the end of this thread it will have increased again. the albanain population has increased post ww2, there is no doubt about that kouflas. i hear there are now 1 million albanians in athens alone in absolute numbers more than in all of macedonia, and thats noot counting the aravaniti who were the athenians of the 19 century.

why cant you admit the nonsense was started by your fascists of the metacas era and it continues unabated to this day. the linkage with the ancients was introduced by your propgandist intellectuals to justify the occupation of macedonia.

surely even a fanatic like yourself knows a little about the multiethnic nature of modern greece and its non existent connection with hellas. if you dont just check out true macedonians many posts and learn.

tell me why do you continue playing charades with us on maknews.

no macedonian has ever questioned your rrights to identify as greeks, yet you poor sods still continue to maintian an undefensible position about us macedonians. get over it koouflas join the 21st century. forget metaxas and the other insecure wankers you call historians in greece. wake up form your delusion and lets all confronte the real problems facing humanity and our planet.

But our country has never officially made the absurd claim of a cultural continuity that stretches back to 7000bc. Your country has. And if we want to get into the Albanians themselves you need look no further than this section of the forum macedonian-history/the-albanian-culture-of-modern-greece-t12002-140.html in all actuality it was your country that was possibly 1/2 Albanian and half everything else.

Doesn't it ... I remember a precession of Alexanders soldiers marching not to long ago ...

Well maybe they retained some of it

its often assumed that the vlachs were willing participants in their hellenisation process.
this is untrue, they like all the other christian ethnicities had been influenced by the church schools and bavarian greek kingdoms propaganda and some misguided individuals were conned by their education. however hmost vlachs were hellenised by the terror of the greek bands sent by the bavarian kingdom to extend its borders. any vlach who resisted or tried to offer an alternative to the hellenic model was killed or tortured. have a look at the book the nomads of the balkans.

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... start%3D20

Here's a book every supposed "greek" Macedonian should get - The Vergianoi Vlachs and Arvanitovlachoi Central Macedonia



Hey I'm helping your cause actually. Click the link and see.

BTW Daniil Moschopolis was a Vlach