http://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Soc ... 069107383X

Here's a book you could buy from the vlach Iosipios Moisiodax. He was one of the modern "greek" intelligentsia. Interesting how a vlach could become a modern "greek" just because he feels like it

http://books.google.com/books?id=A2Ovls ... x#PPA97,M1

"Zourtoullios" is a Hellenized form of "Zerzoules". Nikolaos Zerzoules was a Greek Vlach who at one time taught at Metsovo, and at another time taught mathematics in the Patriarchal Academy in Constantinople.

If these things keep coming out and we might have to ask modern "greece" to change its name to the Republic of ArvanitoVlachoi (Athens)

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fr ... 946097D6CF

1901 NY Times article about Hellenized Vlachs in Macedonia.

All this stuff is great material,
but how come in none of these books is there a reference of "macedonian" identities ?

Not only that, how come they keep mentioning the region as macedonia whe you guys argue that Greece never refered to that are as macedonia until 1992

Isn't a little weird ... yesno ?

I could add more .. Were did the Vlahs go from your country ?
Where di the Bulgfarians go mentioned in this book ?

A lot of problems and slective vision ... YesNo ?

G

The best modern "greek" defense is to ask questions when being questioned. This book does make reference to a Macedonian identity. If I'm up to it I'll post it.

What I think is really weird is how you had Vlach prime ministers and Albanian presidents and insist you have something to do with the ancient Hellenes.

You seem to be interested in this book. Why don't you buy the book and read it for yourself? You'll find alot more about your true ethnicity.

Offcource I have a connection to the ancient Greeks.
I can read the originals from Homer written in 800BC about a war 1200BC
I can read the new testament written just after Christ in the original and in the original it is chanted in our church
My City Thessaloniki is mentioned exactly byt that name in the New testament in Greek and addressed to it's Greek residents. Your faith isbased on the messages in that book.

Why is there a problem if there were Vlahs and Albanians that lived in Greece ? I am proud for every bit that goes to make up the modern Greek.
No Greek clames purity, yet you guys say we claim that and show evidence that is not true. You don't have to, you are correct and we always have been saying that.

In your own evidence as well as so many sources the muslims were a majority in your country. What happened to them ?
You have Mosques in your country now that are very old. You have Albanians in your country that are already running your country by holding the balance to power. They are part of your goverment. That is the reason that terrorist can build a "museum" with a Map of greater Albania that has part of your own country IN YOUR OWN capital !!

You claim purity and continuity to the ancient Macedonians !?!?!?

G

I'll tell you what georgy you can take it here instead of veering this topic off topic general-discussions/modern-greeks-what-are-you-t12673.html

Giorgis I gave you a link to put up your arguement and you still veer this topic off topic. I warned you about this. This is why I deleted your post.

I answered your following comment:

"What I think is really weird is how you had Vlach prime ministers and Albanian presidents and insist you have something to do with the ancient Hellenes."

Greeks do not claim racial purity, what is on topic ? If I agree with your point I am on topic ? In this thread you debate an argument Greeks do not disagree with. What is the motive of this thread ? Do you want to break the link between the modern Greeks so that you can strengthen your link with ancient Macedonians ?

At least you read it, that will have to do me ...

G

No I don't expect you to agree with reality (my point). You miss the point (reality) altogether. Every single post made about questioning your kind has been a sore subject for your modern "hellenism". You don't claim to be racially pure yet you still claim to have something to do with the ancient race of Hellenes. The "greek" enlightenment figures of your most recent history were anything but "greek". Vlachs in the past were modern "greeces" biggest benefactors. It was a Vlach who came up with the absurd megali idea. It was a Vlach who said anyone could be "greek". I'm sorry but do you now see why your identity throws up a million red flags? You skate around the obvious like every other modern "greek" yet I am still baffled as to how a modern "greek" can tell me, "You're a slav and ancient Macedonians were greek not slavs" meanwhile you have absolutely nothing to do with ancient anything. You're a pathetic remnant from an Englishmans poem. Sad but true. Now if you wish to continue this debate click the link above that I posted before and we will continue there.

Geez Giorgis you avoid the link I posted above,,,,AGAIN. Scared? Uncertain? Confused?

Grkomanche

Be honest would u let Mitsotakis do u za pari or VISA?

What's so hard to believe Asskiss? You don't need a PhD to read and learn on your own and to see that a modern "greek" is nothing more than a western creation and yesterdays Albanian, Vlach, Macedonian, Turk, Armenian, Serb, Bulgar, etc.

BTW if you are so interested in wanting to know what I do then just ask. I am an Engineer. You "thinks" only people who are historians read books Fool I hope you're not this ignorant when you get passed puberty. So why don't you click on the link and answer the question you semi-vlach?