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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?

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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?


What do you mean by "more"?? More connected to Alexander the Great and Philip?


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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?


whats the big deal beetween u two? according to his previous post, stefo seems to be ok.


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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?


whats the big deal beetween u two? according to his previous post, stefo seems to be ok.


He REALLY thinks he's Macedonian :roll: Pan-Macedonians think like he does (non-macedonian ones, vlach's and prosfygi).

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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?


whats the big deal beetween u two? according to his previous post, stefo seems to be ok.


He REALLY thinks he's Macedonian :roll:


I am definitely not an "ethnic" macedonian.


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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?


whats the big deal beetween u two? according to his previous post, stefo seems to be ok.


He REALLY thinks he's Macedonian :roll:


I am definitely not an "ethnic" macedonian.


THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARE YOU ETHNIC GREEK ?

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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?


whats the big deal beetween u two? according to his previous post, stefo seems to be ok.


He REALLY thinks he's Macedonian :roll:


I am definitely not an "ethnic" macedonian.


THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARE YOU ETHNIC GREEK ?


Of course i am ethnic Greek

May i ask you something? when someone asks your wife what she is, what is she saying? "I am ethnic vlaho-prosfygas"?
Because according to you, she is a vlaho-prosfygas. correct me if i am wrong, please.


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Who's MORE Macedonian you or your wife ?


whats the big deal beetween u two? according to his previous post, stefo seems to be ok.


He REALLY thinks he's Macedonian :roll:


I am definitely not an "ethnic" macedonian.


THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARE YOU ETHNIC GREEK ?


Of course i am ethnic Greek

May i ask you something? when someone asks your wife what she is, what is she saying? "I am ethnic vlaho-prosfygas"?
Because according to you, she is a vlaho-prosfygas. correct me if i am wrong, please.


Canadian-Greek

Does this paint a TRUE story ? She know's her roots do you ? She will say from the province of but NOT Macedonian before GREEK.

She's LOVES her country, CANADA

How often do you tell people in Greece "I'M MACEDONIAN" unless they ask from what region? Funny everyone I ask says "I'M GREEK".

We go out daily and tell people we're ONTARIANS ! :roll:

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What's wrong if a Greek speaker of Arvanite or Vlach heritage says they are Greek of Arvanite or Vlach heritage? Why are people in Greece so self-loathing that they can't even do something as simple as this?

Why do the Macedonians in Greece refer to their cousins and uncles and aunts in Macedonia as "Serbs" and "Slavs"? Who taught these people to be so stupid that they don't even know the heritage of their own blood relatives?

If we are ethnic Macedonians it is because we have been living continuously in Macedonia for the last 1500 years. You can't say the same thing about the prosfyges who have only been in Macedonia for 80 years or less.

I acknowledge that the prosfyges and their offspring have acquired a Greek national identity, but I don't for a second accept the nonsensical history that the Greek government attributes to these new immigrants.


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What's wrong if a Greek speaker of Arvanite or Vlach heritage says they are Greek of Arvanite or Vlach heritage?


They should be doing that because it tells us they are ashamed of something they are, which is very sad.

I had someone within the last few months ADMIT "YES I'M A PROSFYGA" I knew all along but he would NEVER say the words before. ;)

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Exactly, RMK, they don't profess their ethnic heritage honestly because they are too 'ashamed' to admit they are of Vlach or Arvanite heritage. That's what the bullshit 'Hellenism' is all about, it has taught them to be self-loathing. When Pangalos went on television to deny his Albanian heritage I thought to myself there is the perfect example of today's modern Greeks.

The same is now true of the grkomani, who like to refer to their own blood relatives as 'skopianoi' and 'Slavs' and to themselves as the 'Greek descendants of Alexander the Great'. That's a pretty amazing feat for people who have the same grandparents.


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What's wrong if a Greek speaker of Arvanite or Vlach heritage says they are Greek of Arvanite or Vlach heritage? Why are people in Greece so self-loathing that they can't even do something as simple as this?

Why do the Macedonians in Greece refer to their cousins and uncles and aunts in Macedonia as "Serbs" and "Slavs"? Who taught these people to be so stupid that they don't even know the heritage of their own blood relatives?

If we are ethnic Macedonians it is because we have been living continuously in Macedonia for the last 1500 years. You can't say the same thing about the prosfyges who have only been in Macedonia for 80 years or less.

I acknowledge that the prosfyges and their offspring have acquired a Greek national identity, but I don't for a second accept the nonsensical history that the Greek government attributes to these new immigrants.


Lubi, most arvanites i know and all the vlachs i know, are proud for their arvanite or vlach heritage. They elders also use to sing and dance their folklor songs. The key is that they do not accept that being arvanite or vlach, is something that differentiates you ethnically. Of course the pontians are very proud as well for their pontian origin and they got mad if you claim they are n't ethnic greeks being pontians.


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What's wrong if a Greek speaker of Arvanite or Vlach heritage says they are Greek of Arvanite or Vlach heritage? Why are people in Greece so self-loathing that they can't even do something as simple as this?

Why do the Macedonians in Greece refer to their cousins and uncles and aunts in Macedonia as "Serbs" and "Slavs"? Who taught these people to be so stupid that they don't even know the heritage of their own blood relatives?

If we are ethnic Macedonians it is because we have been living continuously in Macedonia for the last 1500 years. You can't say the same thing about the prosfyges who have only been in Macedonia for 80 years or less.

I acknowledge that the prosfyges and their offspring have acquired a Greek national identity, but I don't for a second accept the nonsensical history that the Greek government attributes to these new immigrants.


Lubi, most arvanites i know and all the vlachs i know, are proud for their arvanite or vlach heritage. They elders also use to sing and dance their folklor songs. The key is that they do not accept that being arvanite or vlach, is something that differentiates you ethnically. Of course the pontians are very proud as well for their pontian origin and they got mad if you claim they are n't ethnic greeks being pontians.


FUNNY HERE (CANADA) THEY CLAIM ETHNIC MACEDONIAN AND GREEK ! THEY TEND TO FORGET TO FILL IN THE GAPS BY CHOICE !

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I had someone within the last few months ADMIT "YES I'M A PROSFYGA" I knew all along but he would NEVER say the words before. ;)


Was he/she an "ethnic prosfyga" or..??


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I had someone within the last few months ADMIT "YES I'M A PROSFYGA" I knew all along but he would NEVER say the words before. ;)


Was he/she an "ethnic prosfyga" or..??


His mom and dad were from Asia Minor take I guess why he said it after 10 years? He had help on this night? :lol:

What was that help ?

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I had someone within the last few months ADMIT "YES I'M A PROSFYGA" I knew all along but he would NEVER say the words before. ;)


Was he/she an "ethnic prosfyga" or..??


His mom and dad were from Asia Minor take I guess why he said it after 10 years? He had help on this night? :lol:

What was that help ?


Of course you enough greek to know that prosfygas means refuge. Being refuge makes you a no-ethnic greek?


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What's wrong if a Greek speaker of Arvanite or Vlach heritage says they are Greek of Arvanite or Vlach heritage? Why are people in Greece so self-loathing that they can't even do something as simple as this?

Why do the Macedonians in Greece refer to their cousins and uncles and aunts in Macedonia as "Serbs" and "Slavs"? Who taught these people to be so stupid that they don't even know the heritage of their own blood relatives?

If we are ethnic Macedonians it is because we have been living continuously in Macedonia for the last 1500 years. You can't say the same thing about the prosfyges who have only been in Macedonia for 80 years or less.

I acknowledge that the prosfyges and their offspring have acquired a Greek national identity, but I don't for a second accept the nonsensical history that the Greek government attributes to these new immigrants.


Lubi, most arvanites i know and all the vlachs i know, are proud for their arvanite or vlach heritage. They elders also use to sing and dance their folklor songs. The key is that they do not accept that being arvanite or vlach, is something that differentiates you ethnically. Of course the pontians are very proud as well for their pontian origin and they got mad if you claim they are n't ethnic greeks being pontians.


FUNNY HERE (CANADA) THEY CLAIM ETHNIC MACEDONIAN AND GREEK ! THEY TEND TO FORGET TO FILL IN THE GAPS BY CHOICE !


Living abroad you will be very often questioned of what's your ethnicity, where are you from, whats your origin etc. Living in your own country you may wont be questioned for years.
Anyway, i never heard anyone to say "i am macedonian" or "greek macedonian". When a greek asks another one where is he from he means which part of the country.
"Kritikos ise re? Kala to katalava". (r u a cretan. i knew it)
"Peloponisios e? Hamutzis?"
or you can hear "Pontios ise?" (r u pontian)


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Lubi, most arvanites i know and all the vlachs i know, are proud for their arvanite or vlach heritage. They elders also use to sing and dance their folklor songs. The key is that they do not accept that being arvanite or vlach, is something that differentiates you ethnically. Of course the pontians are very proud as well for their pontian origin and they got mad if you claim they are n't ethnic greeks being pontians.

Stefanos, I don't want to belabour this, but a Vlach, an Arvanite and a Macedonian are not ethnic Greeks. They each belong to a different ethnic group. They can certainly be Greek citizens and have a Greek national identity, but ethnically they are not Greek.

Do you see what I am saying?


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Q. TI I SE ?

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Western historians have distorted that history and short changed others. That’s a problem.
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Is this your way of saying that an Albanian, a Vlach, a grkoman and a prosfyga are ‘ethnic Greeks’?



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Bad guys these western Historians..... Conspiracy in favor of Greeks ....

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No, I mean that anybody in the Balkans has a mixed blood. And in my opinion, there is very small racial difference between Bulgarians and Macedonians. Between Serbians and Macedonians, much more. Between Macedonians and Greeks much more.

But ALL are mixed.


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