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Filip M wrote:
I can help with proof reading. I know Macedonian very well. I got all my education in Macedonian, and I did some creative writing too. (My english is another story though ;-)
Don't forget Filip M, you also subjugated the greeks at the battle of charonea. Don' sell yourself short.
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I forgot about that. Let me update my resume. :lol:


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A page from my Macedonian Alphabet/Poem book

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Interesting.. i have the same page in the bukvar I learnt from, but the flags seem to have been erased.


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MKD, I have the same bukvar


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Volk wrote:
Hey MKD,

We need to decide on an artistic feel. The animations should melt into the website. I got no probs with the animations, can even do them in 3D :)


I think nice voice overs will be needed, possibly female?


I was thinking that the artistic feel should be bright, bubbly, bold and colourful. That is the trend i've noticed with the most successfull figures in children's entertainment such as Hi Five, the Wiggles etc. As a rough guide, here are a few websites that have the kind of artistic feel i am thinking of.
http://www.thewiggles.com.au/playground ... y.asp?ID=1 (they have some very good educational games, especially counting and the alphabet)
http://abc.net.au/children/bananas/
http://abc.net.au/children/ (note that having a kid doing some of the voice overs is a great idea)

What do you guys think? Are there any other suggestions or examples of what you guys like?

Volk, what's the best format to hand the graphics to you as? I am thinking of initially handing you a bitmap or a jpeg and for you to convert it to the vector images required for flash animations. Once you have converted the images, i'll see if i can learn how to draw up the images directly as vector drawings and send them to you in that format from then on. Does this sound ok to you? 3D sounds impressive. If it's a great deal of extra work, i think that 2D is extremely effective too.

For the letter A, here are the words that were listed in my bukvar:
Ана (girl's name)
ананас (pinapple)
авион (aeroplane)
антена (antenna)
автобус (bus)

Does anyone have any more suggestions as to which simple objects/words can be included on the "A bukva" page?


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MKD look at this: http://home.arcor.de/makedonia/deca/drop03.html

This is one version of my idea, but i have to code the script another way. It will take a while but I'm sure it will be a great step forward.


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Volk, what's the best format to hand the graphics to you as?


any is good, the best being formats that handle transparency very well. Haven't used flash for a while but from memory png files work the best with transparency.



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This is one version of my idea, but i have to code the script another way. It will take a while but I'm sure it will be a great step forward.


interesting idea palatica... But if the project is just a simple alphabet introduction where would the letters be placed? I think the drag and drop would work much better for a more advanced version, maybe spelling?


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I was thinking of more of an orchastrated picture like this, where when you click on the object, it does a little animation..

eg. when you click on the plain, it'll say "avion" and then do a little loop.

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Thats what i also had in mind MKD :)


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Volk,

my idea is (was) to generate a word. Than to generate all letters as drag&dropable layer. The gray-field are the answer fields.
Each child had do write the generated word with the dragable letters, and put them "into" the answer-fields. If the word is correct written, than yo get points or maybe somesthing other. It's like a puzzle!

I think in a few weeks I can show you a better version.


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I think that'd be a great idea after the kid has read through, say, 5 letters.

So, the kid learns 5 letters A B V G D and then does a little test on the vocabulary learnt


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This is another great project MKD.

Keep it simple as a lot of the people who will be accessing the site will have little or no Macedonian and they'll come in from all over the world.

A list of basic words for starters hopefully with pictures and audio so they can hear how each word is pronounced.

Then put some sentences together -- with audio as well. Or they'll never learn the language properly.

Here is the site of the best Macedonian teacher I have ever met. You should know Christina Kramer if you don't already. She might be able to answer some of your questions:

http://www.utoronto.ca/slavic/kramer/


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Thanks maknews. I want to follow the examples of Bukvar and Abecedar and have a few letter pages, then a page of sentences relating to the words that were mentioned in the previous letter pages, all with audio.

I am going to design the page for users that have no macedonian knowledge at all, so it is a start from basics approach. As I get further into it, i will call on some of those names you mentioned. I actually haven't heard of Christina Kramer, but i'm sure she would like to be involved in the future.


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There is an excellent chance that many, if not most, of the people coming to the 'children's' site won't be children. Keep that in mind as you think about the lessons and the design.


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MKD, do kaj stigna so proekot?

Ako ti treba pomos tuka sum.. :D


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Извини Волк, уште немам почнато со цртањето :oops: .

Ако имам време ова недела, ќе пробам да ја нацртам страницата за буквата „А“.


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Good thinking MKD,

Love all the ideas put forward. I too would have a use for such a site. Apart from that I have a 2 year old who would benefit more from it than me.

My sister has 3 kids and she could use this as a tool to teach them. Their father is not Maco and he would like to see them learn some.

Great going guys!!

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I have a Bachelor of Arts and Graphic Design with extensive illustration experience. Unfortunatelly no Flash till now...

Next 2 Monthes I'm very busy but after it I'm in...

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eeeexcellent


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