Greek MPs Demand the Death Penalty for Ethnic Macedonians

Internet issue of "Dnevnik" 05/31/2008
English translation by Zlatko Nikolovski of the United Macedonian Diaspora
Edited by Risto Stefov

Source: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/343/1/

Massive pressure on VINOZHITO

According to Athanassios Plevris, ethnic Macedonians committed a felony when they described "Skopje" as " Macedonia " and the language as "Macedonian".

Death penalties were demanded for the members of the "VINOZHITO" party of the Macedonian minority in Greece, as well as for "Greek Helsinki Watch", by Member of the Greek Parliament, Athanassios Plevris of "The People's Orthodox Rally" ("L. A.O.S.") Party. The MP of the ultra-nationalist party Georgios Karatzaferis sent a written request to the Foreign Minister, Dora Bakoyannis and to the Minister of Justice, Sotirios Hadjigakis saying that there is a map of Europe on the VINOZHITO website showing "Skopje" as Macedonia and that "Helsinki Watch", which is financed by the Greek government, talks about the existence of a Macedonian language. "This is absolutely unacceptable" he said as he describes the Macedonian language as "Slavic".

Treason

Furthermore MP Plevris asked Minister Hadjigakis if he intends to start legal procedures against the two organizations following the criminal code, article 30, paragraph 1. According to Plevris the two organizations are violating article 138, to which the highest degree of penalty should be appropriately levied because it applies to violation of territorial integrity: "Which by means of threat of violence there is intent to separate territory belonging to the Hellenic Republic and join it to another country". The penalty for such a violation is death, states the article.

The last time a death penalty was executed in Greece was August 25th, 1972. Vasilis Limbersis was shot because he had killed his wife, his mother-in-law and his two children. The Greek state abolished the death penalty except for treason and serious war crimes.

Plevris asked Bakoyannis how it is possible that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs finances such organizations serving the "Pro-Skopjan propaganda". The parliament's officers forwarded the letter to the prosecutor of the highest court. This happened on April 23rd, to which VINOZHITO reacted on May 23rd as follows:

"We would not need to be addressing this case if the answer of the Minister of Justice had been similar to that of the Foreign Minister Bakoyannis, stating that 'Greece as a democratic country guarantees freedom of speech to all its citizens, which, of course, applies to the members of VINOZHITO as well." This was stated in response to the statements made under the title "Now we are awaiting maximum penalty". According to VINOZHITO, Plevris's request is considered justified by the Minister of Justice, so article 138 could be applied to the ethnic Macedonians living in Greece .

Accused of irredentism

"Are we now back in the Greek Civil War? We are tired of repeating over and over again that the ethnic minorities are an internal issue. Again and again we try and emphasize that we are not irredentists and provocateurs. Only provocateurs pose the question of changing borders. The television media in this country, while pretending to practice democracy, constantly distorts our views and our positions. The political system here characterizes us as irredentists by force. Are we now expected to face the highest penalty for that?" asks EFA and VINOZHITO in a public statement.

Panayote Dimitras, chairman of the Greek Helsinki Committee, says that both Ministers are overly hostile towards VINOZHITO and the Greek Helsinki Committee and are willing to take action against them. This confirms the fact that in Greece it is dangerous to say "Macedonian state", "Macedonian language" and "Macedonian minority".

Despite the multiple decrees and judgments the Council of Europe and the UN has exacted against such acts, Greece continues to violate international human rights treaties, stated Mr. Dimitras for "Dnevnik". The fact that no political party, no medium and no public organization in Greece protested against the actions of both the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry for Justice, is a clear indication that the political system and society that needs to address the rights of the Macedonians, Turks and others in Greece are locked out. This shows that democracy does not work when dealing with the rights of the minorities in Greece, says Dimitras.

Note to readers. In Greece, the terms "Skopje" and "Slavic" are widely used as racist epithets when referring to the Republic of Macedonia and the Macedonian language. The European Union routinely turns a blind eye to Greece's ongoing persecution of minorities, thereby enabling this sort of insidious behaviour. Lately, the EU has regressed to the point where it has begun to mimic Greece's human rights abuses. The human rights situation in the European Union is deteriorating. See article: http://www.e-f-a.org/news.php?id=413

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Can a mod please post this up top for ALL to see in 2008?

I emailed it to three newspapers here already today but I doubt it;s going to be printed. Will see tomorrow

This is a VERY SERIOUS ISSUE and those making these wishes (DEATH) will be hearing about it.

"“We would not need to be addressing this case if the answer of the Minister of Justice had been similar to that of the Foreign Minister Bakoyannis, stating that ‘Greece as a democratic country guarantees freedom of speech to all its citizens, which, of course, applies to the members of VINOZHITO as well.” This was stated in response to the statements made under the title “Now we are awaiting maximum penalty”. According to VINOZHITO, Plevris’s request is considered justified by the Minister of Justice, so article 138 could be applied to the ethnic Macedonians living in Greece ".

What is the Euro garbage in Brussels doing about the ongoing persecution of minorities in Greece? Where is Mr. Solana and his big mouth on this issue? Javier is very quiet when it comes to the human rights abuse in the EU -- ignorant fucking coward that he is.

Are there any statements at all from the OSCE over Greece's persistent and congenital racism or is the OSCE too busy masturbating in the corner? Ollie Rehn visited the Macedonian minority in Greece years ago, but the issue must have slipped his little European pea brain.

Where is the Council of Europe -- asleep at the wheel again, continuing to enable Greece's rights abuses. The COE's European Court of Human Rights has repeatedly convicted Greece for its violation of human rights, but Greece just laughs at these judgements and carries on with it's insidious behaviour. Where are the chickenshit dweebs at the CoE to actually "DO" something to put a stop to Greece's sick behaviour.

The EU, the OSCE and the CoE have shown themselves to be incompetent and cowardly when it comes to implementing basic human rights in Europe, this is why racist societies like Greece get a free pass from the Euro twats. All these lazy cows can do is criticize others, but when it comes to one of their Euro buddies, they all huddle together and stay silent.

This is fucking disgraceful!!

How can the EU be serious about expanding the UE block by allowing a fucked up country like Greece to behave in such a way.

Shame Shame Shame

All these fuckers hear from us is while they think Greece is .

Our people now face the same treatment they received 95 years ago. All because they are finding they courage to stand up and be proud of who they are.

Long live Macedonia and Macedonians
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From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

Greece, craddle of democracy, human rights, and all things good.

How about the death penalty for the pure hellenes!!!!!!! DEATHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This is unbelievable, really unbelievable.
This must be sent to every news organization on the planet.
Not only is the The People's Orthodox Rally racist, but know they are actually attempting to act out their ideas.
They are asking for and promoting the mass-extermination of Macedonians in Greece.
Even if this does not happen, the fact that a major Greek party is promoting the idea of the extermination of the countries biggest minority should be sent to every media outlet.
Does anyone have a link to an English article regarding this?
This MUST be sent to the media.

welcome back alexander

i'm pretty sure the very first post is the english version "Internet issue of "Dnevnik" 05/31/2008 -- Translation Zlatko Nikolovski, 06/01/2008, Editing Risto Stefov"

UMD please do every Macedonian justice and get this out there ASAP!!!!

Yes, with this excellent human rights instrument (internet) we can generate major awareness. We know what they've been hiding all these years, now let the other NATO and EU member's face the muzika.

The world is watching now!

PS - Thank you, Jankovska

They/ their fathers/ grandfathers have been excecuting macedonians for a long time. grk politicians NOW need to be arrested for pkk TERRORIST involvement and for murder/genocide of their minoritys.

What bothers me the most is that NATO, the EU and the OSCE (JOKE) turn a blind eye to these on-going criminal acts. What do you think Greece would do if we used the same rules on Greeks in Canada?

NO BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS IN GREECE FOR ETHNIC MACEDONIANS, WHY NOT?

DID YOU KNOW THAT WHEN ANY VISIBLE MINORITY PERSON CLAIMS TO BE ETHNIC GREEK THEY SAY THAT IT'S A FACT? THIS IS USED FOR INTERNATIONAL REPORTING PURPOSE ONLY BECAUSE THEY NEVER KEEP RECORDS (ONLY A BLACK BOOK) .. TURKEY HAS THEM ALL.

MR. WONGAS

European Free Alliance (EFA) response:

04.06.08 EFA CONDEMNS ATTACKS AGAINST THE MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE IN EU INSTITUTIONS (04/06/2008)
EFA sends letters of protest to the European Commission, European Parliament and an open-letter to all MEPs from Athens


The European Free Alliance – European Political Party (EFA) is deeply concerned by the latest campaign of Athenian MEPs within EU institutions to replace and in some instances eradicate the use of the term “Macedonian” to describe the Macedonian language, Macedonian culture and persons identifying as ethnic Macedonians.


It is well known that the motivation of Athens and its MEPs on this issue is its blatant refusal to recognise Macedonian identity, both in Athens and beyond. Indeed, Athens’s aggressive behaviour on this issue is something not new to EFA. Our party was a witness to Athens’s deplorable policy of rejecting the existence of ethnic Macedonian identity in Athens during a fact-finding visit to the country in 2006.


EFA wishes to point out that any attempts by bodies of the European Parliament or by Commission to bow to the absurd demands of the Athenian MEPs to rename the Macedonian language are not in conformity with article 6(3) of the Treaty on the European Union which declares that: “The Union shall respect the national identities of its Member States.” The Republic of Macedonia is an official candidate country to join the EU and thus it is logical and appropriate for the institutions (and indeed the Member-States) to act in conformity with the principles and spirit contained in the treaties, in the lead-up to the accession of the aforementioned country to the EU.


Moreover, it is quite absurd and indeed erroneous to call the Macedonian language something which it is not. All serious linguists are in agreement on the use of the term Macedonian to describe it. Moreover and ironically, the strongest piece of evidence for the existence of a language called Macedonian comes not from the academic world, but from the Athenian state itself. In the Athenian census of 1920, the Macedonian language (not Slav-Macedonian, Slavic language or Slavic idiom) was listed as a language spoken by parts of the population in Athens. Parts of the official census results were published (and therefore recognised) by the Athenian state. They can be found in the General Archives of the Athenian state and has been republished in a book by M. Houliarakis (Geografiki, dioikitiki kai plithismiaki ekseliksi tis Ellados tom G' page 363).

Given that Athens in 1920 officially referred to the Macedonian language as Macedonian, any attempt by the same state almost a century later to modify or eradicate the name of the language (and people and culture connected to it) must be rejected.

Thanks RMK, its just that I was looking for an article from an English newspaper or something along those lines.
Because the Greeks love labeling anything on forums as "rumors", this way it is harder for them to discredit a publicized report.
I think I found one :
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1725/1/

Precisely !

The relationship between the Greek State and the Macedonians is one of colonial domination. The "name dispute" exists only inside that relationship; it is not a relationship of mutual coexistence, dignity and respect, it is a relationship of subjection, oppression and extermination.

MACEDONIANS ! WAKE UP !