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 Post subject: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2008 10:08 
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I want to point out Adamantios Korais who is the father of Katharevousa or the 'pure' language is on that list. You can read more on Korais on the "Greece Without Columns" thread on page's 48-49.
My my my this is getting real interesting. Don't :-(( modern "greeks". Wipe those tears away with your Albanian fustenellas and sit on the floor cross legged and smoke a shisha like your forefathers used to :lol


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2008 10:45 
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It is a good one TM,

I know of this one:

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As recently as the 19th century the official view of Greek history was that "the Greek Penisula had been struggling for independence from foreign domination ever since the ancient Greeks had been conquered by the Macedonian armies in 338 BC"

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Anna Triandafyllidou, "National identity and the Other", Ethnic and racial studies, Vol 21, No 4, July 1998, p. 605

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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2008 11:02 
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That's excellent mk :clap: . Here's another one, not so much as the ones above.


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2008 12:12 
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TM, make sure all these pages that you have scanned and on the other threads end up in the archive. This is good stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2008 03:13 
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TrueMacedonian,

Another good post. I think I speak for everyone when I say that your posts as of late have been spot on. The shear effort of research and scanning is incredible. Verily, you are a True Macedonian...and we're fortunate to have you.

It is not surprising to read that prominent 19th century Greeks did not believe that ancient Macedonians were pure Hellenes. Today, anyone who starts with the premise that the ancient Macedonians were anything but Greek are excommunicated.

"Greek Macedonians," as they like to be called, are nothing but imposters from Asia Minor.

Keep up the good work, sir. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2008 14:37 
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TrueMacedonian, thank you for all your hard work and research, keep it coming! :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2008 16:20 
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Tsutsul Pase Goveda wrote:
TrueMacedonian, thank you for all your hard work and research, keep it coming! :clap:


I have to say a big THANK YOU too TM, for all the work you have put into this
Bravo Brat :clap: :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2008 20:16 
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:blush Gee thanks guys. I have alot more to come ;)


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2008 20:49 
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:blush Gee thanks guys. I have alot more to come ;)


then bring that "alot", all this that you have posted needs to be posted on every greek forum on the internet, let them see themselves in the mirror.

Splendid stuff TM, :cuz :cuz :cuz

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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2008 20:49 
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great work :point

keep on...

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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 26 Oct 2008 20:29 
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Actually there are. There's also an excerpt in this book where a union of modern "greece" and Albania almost happened. Would you like to see that one? Or how the Albanian population was to further hellenize into greek society. This is the typical modern "greek" response we're used to getting. If I go on to your "greek" forums I guarantee I would find 1000 threads dedicated to how much Macedonians are not Macedonian.
Funny when the tables are turned you modern "greeks" have absolutely nothing to say about what is actually posted and what the topic is really about.


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
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Has anyone here realize that the more the Greeks deny our identity, the more we discover and dig up hidden truths from the past? Hidden truths and secrets that will forever haunt the modern Greek mind and diminish their doctrine of ancient continuity and ethnic purity.


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 Post subject: Re: 19th Century 'Greek" Scholars on Ancient Macedonians
PostPosted: 27 Oct 2008 02:30 
This is pretty significant.

We can see what Greek historians thought of Macedonia at that time.

What should be kept in mind is that until quite recently the Greek State never really believed Macedonia was Greek - but it can't say that.

I think that the issue here is that the Greek State's right to exist has been built over the dispossession and oppression of native people.

Which explains why they are so determined to make it a State of pure Greeks - and Greeks only, and furthermore, it explains why Athens does not trust the loyalty of its citizens, and is so wounded and bewildered when its proud Greeks fail to uphold the imagined ideals it aspires to.

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