What about the worst macedonian?

Branko Crvenkovski is absolutely nr 1!!!!!!!!
Kiro Gligorov

Gligorov is number one and the Macedonian people should NEVER forget what he started and was payed for nicely. Macedonians tried to remove him once but the next person may not be as lucky?

Why do you think Vasco used his last name, Serbian and Greek hero. Vasco's real last name is NOT "Gligorov"... Mitsotakis III

None of the above.

The best?

A toss up between Todor Alexandrov from Shtip and Vasil Chakalarov from Kostursko.

Worst?

#1 Blazhe Koneski a Serboman who was a member of the Chetniks who falisfied every document he ever got hold of and did everything possible to turn Macedonia into a Serbian province. Followed closely by Kolishevski, Mojsov, Talevski and all those communist criminals who did everything possible to kill of Macedonia.

The recorded ideas and thoughts of Goce Delcev that relate to what the Macedonian people must do to gain true justice and freedom are more philosophically coherent and inspirational, while being pragmatic, than those of any other Macedonian leader that I am aware of. They are also probably more relevant to today's situation than those of any other Macedonian figure in history, except for maybe Aristotle, who is among the most fundamentally influential people in the world of all time - more so than Alexander, if you judge by his influence in his own time as well as his contemporary influence on Western thought.

I voted Delchev, but I may have voted Aristotle if he was on the list.

My vote goes to even though he isnt in the poll:

The holy and right-believing Emperor Justinian I, born outside of Skopje.

thanks alexandrov, now can you please post some of those ideas, and their impact on macedonia.

Osiris,

I've posted many relevant citations and summaries of Delcev's views and convictions in various threads relating to current affairs in the past, but the posts just end up getting lost over time, presumably due to a lack of popular interest in the topic.

Delcev's view of the (Macedonian) liberation cause is best summarised in the quote in my signature, which is just as relevant today as it was then.

I have it as one of my tasks to set up a website that will contain extensive material on Delcev (among other things), and will remain as a permanent online source (if anyone wants to get involved, please pm me). Until then, I recommend you get your hands some of the numerous books containing records of original Delcev statements and actions. There is also a considerable volume of Macedonian publications that cite original sources on Gruev, Gjorce Petrov, Sandanski etc, which should be explored by anybody with a serious interest in the Macedonian liberation cause. Reliable sources on post-1913 VMRO leaders and "right wingers", like Boris Sarafov and Todor Aleksandrov, are much more scarce, since the Macedonian Socialists demonized them as 'vrhovisti' or 'slugi na bugarskiot dvor', largely motivated by ideological prejudices, as opposed to objective assessment of relevant evidence, while Bulgarian nationalists have been happy to exploit them as allegedly Bulgarian heroes and to use the fact that they were supported by an overwhelming majority of the Macedonian revolutionary movement of the time as proof that all "Slav" Macedonian revolutionaries were Bulgarian patriots, except those who were subject to Serbian indoctrination or bribery. There is still a lack of comprehensive, bipartisan academic research and analysis of the relevant period in Macedonia. Most of what is being published even today in the Macedonian Republic is fundamentally based on prior publications that were shaped by Yugoslav Communist or Bulgarian state policy.

Blaze Koneski, the literary man?

sorry folks but delchev compared to alexandar surely you guys are kidding.

one created an empire stretching from macedonia to india and impacted on the exchange of ideas that some think caused the rise of christianity , the other ....


next time you talk to one of your non maso buddies ask them about delchev.

Are you putting popularity over substance and current relevance for the Macedonian people? Was Napoleon a greater man than Mandella?

And if establishing a huge empire and having a direct and immediate impact on world affairs makes one greater than fighting for freedom an justice against huge odds, wouldn't that make Hitler, Stalin or any of the maniacal Roman emperors greater than most, if not all, liberation leaders and thinkers in history?

Well, it depends on the question...

What is meant by the "greatest Macedonian"? Greatest in what regard? Greatest as a Macedonian and for Macedonians?
Or Great by the success or achievements they had?

And success in what?

Eh, I was trying to say the same thing that you did... except you said it eloquently and I did a botched job of it...

By success I mean success in anything including military success in taking over other nations or whatever... enough to earn the title of 'Great' (we're talking about ancient history here, I know today the same 'success' or 'achievements' would be considered tyranny) and whether that success makes him a 'great Macedonian', particularly when he pretty much moved the empire out of Macedonia and tried to establish it in Babylon...

I don't see Alexander as all that great as a Macedonian, I recognize his great achievement (in history) and that he's Macedonian, but I believe his father, Philip, did much more as a Macedonian and for Macedonia itself.

But all that aside anyway, I voted for Goce Delcev.

What makes polls such as this interesting is what they say about the value systems of the voters, rather than about the candidates.

Misirkov. His book "On the Macedonian matters" is the first sample of the modern macedonian nationalism.

Wrong again Pegasus.

I voted for Megas Alexandros, so I must love to kill, pillage, burn, rape, drink to excess, and think I am a god.........yup that sums me up pretty well

I voted for Kyril i Metodji. I believe that these 2 Macedonians offered so much that not only affected our history but many other histories as well. I think that Aleksander is Great but a tyrant as well (my opinion not the whole forums) but without Filip there would be no Aleksander. Plus, he started the wheels in motion to conquering most of the known (and unknown) world. I am still with Osiris about Delcev. A few more days and we will end this poll and make it official on the home page of Maknews.com.

alexandrov even though i prefer mandela's philosophy to napoleons i would say that napoleons impact on the world to date is much greater than mandelas.

i voted for alexandar because he is still the one person who everyone in the world identifies with macedonia.

delchev and the vmro according to their own aims failed, they did not create an independent and free macedonia. in fact it can be argued their actions in raising the 1903 rebellion were a catastrophe for macedonia. so how can they be considered great macedonians if they were responsible for what played out after 1903.

its true alexandrov all our judgements say more about us than our subject matter, thats why i am trying not to use motives and intentions as my guiding principles but results.

Why only a few more days? Why not a few more weeks? People are still voting.