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 Post subject: Macedonian Language_Macedonian Glossary ("ancient")
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2009 06:08 
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Many linguists have accepted the common origin of Indo-European Languages
(Sanskrit, Ancient and Modern Macedonian) and we will find a lot of proof about it.

What is not known?

Glossary (link):
abagna=roza,ruza,rozevo,ovena(?)bavca=a rose
*vrda-;PIE *wrdho-;
The rose was a special growth of Macedonia & the Thracian region as well as of Persia...
bag=garden, orchard,boyestan(bostan,gradina)
Αβαγνα (АБАГНА или АВАГНА)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott

abroutes=vegja,obrva,kreon=eyebrows
from PIE base *bhrus (cf. Skt. bhrus "eyebrow,"
bhrU,bhrUlatA,bhrUmaNDala,vAmabhrU
Αβρουτεζ (АБРУТЕС или АВРУТЕС)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott
οφρυζ-UT

agéma=garda,jagma,odbrana,napad=avant guarde, guards; nom.pl.
aGghAri,agkakkAran2,aikAGg(guard)gam(citadel)
Αγημα (АГЕМА)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott

agkalis=srp,kalish (metal)koles,zakoli=a sickle
from PIE base *sek- "cut"
zakoli,koli=to cull
tempere of unknown origin
kalish=temper,tempering, hardening
sRNi,sRNya,tAgki,zazikalA ; karaTu (tempere);calavai(temperature)
Αγκαλιζ (АНКАЛИС или АГКАЛИС)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott
δρεπανον-UT

ahrounoi=ohrani (cuvari)mega,granica,limit,hraniti (branjene)=boundary stones; nom.pl.
haritAzma,haritopala(stone)(?)
Ακρουνοι (АКРУНИ или АХРУНИ)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott

alié=vepar=boar (manure) (?)
Nonsens: boar
no roots for alie
Αλιη, καπροζ Μακεδοσιν-Hesychius
Αλιη (АЛИЕ)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott

alixa, aliza=jasika,Evla=an alder
*ol-, *el-, Slavic *jelïxa (alder), Lithuanian alksnis (alder), Old High German elira,
Αλιζα (АЛИЗА или АЛИКСА)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott

amalé=milo,mila=gentle; fem.
*am- (to love), Latin amare, Lydian amas (loving)
mAl=desire; love; lust
Αμαλη (АМАЛЕ)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott
αμαλη, απαλή, νεα,[ει οξυνοιτο η δραγματα, παροξυνομενον=snop zito

argipous=orel=an eagle
from PIE base *er-/*or-
Aracakam,arakkam,arukam
Αργιοπουζ (АРГИОПУС)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott
αργιοπουζ αετοζ(orel) Μακεδονεζ

arkon=,arcen,poarcen,odmor,lezerno,bezdelnistvo,sloboden,prazno vreme=leisure, idleness
Lat. linquo , Eng.loan,lend
ARRal,kAryAntara,kRtakSaNa(leisure);reku,ric,rikta..etc (empty)
Αρκον (АРКОН)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott

axos=drvo,sekira(wood,axe)
from PIE *widhu- "tree, wood" ; axe..from PIE *agw(e)si-
aguru,Ahita,akaru,akil and etc..

bedu=voda=water
*wed-, *wod- (wet, water)
bhedaka,bhedya
Βεδυ (ВЕДУ)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott

danón=davi,ubien,mrtov,temen=a murderer
tamasa,tamasvant,tamasvant--svatI=dark,dantaveSTaka
tama,temnina,temen,TEMENIDI(TEMENIDAS) etc...(dark,death)
δανών (ДАНОН)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι, Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott
δανών, κακοποιών, κτεινων, Μακεδονεζ

danos=davi,temno,mrtov,dusha...=death, die, expire
dusha=soul ; dishi=breathe ; dhuvni=exhale, expiration, blow out
tamasa,tamasvant,tamasvant--svatI=dark
tama,temnina,temen,TEMENIDI(TEMENIDAS) etc...(dark,death),dantaveSTaka

darullos=drvo,dab=an oak
*derw- 'tree, timber'
dar,dardarAmra,dAru,dAruphala,dravya and etc...
δαρυλλοζ(ДАРУЛОС или ДАРВЛОС)-Γλοσσαι-Εθνικαι,Μακεδονεζ-Hesychius-Liddell and Scott
δαρυλλοζ η δρυζ, υπο Μακεδόνων

hetairoi=kolegijalnost,drustvo,ceta=comrades; nom. pl.
from PIE base *kam- "to arch."
kam (kamitA=Lat.comis ...etc..
hita;hitamitra

gotan=svinja,krmak,gude,govedo=swine;
acc.sg.*gwou- 'cattle'
gautama,godA,gotra,govid ..etc..

grabion=Dab,dabovina=a sort of oak
*grabh-, Slavic *grabü (a hornbeam), Old Prussian wosigrabis (euonymus), Umbrian Grabovius (a god of oak)

ilas=Dab,dabovina,iverica,spica=a little oak
Nonsens: oak
no roots for ilas
ilas=ila (elka)

kanadoi=vilica,grklan,kandza=jaws; nom. pl.
aNNam (lower jaw), hanua (jaw)=Germ. Kinn ; Eng.chin; hanugraha; hanukA;

klinotrokhon=Klen,Javor=a maple?
Old Icelandic hlynr, Welsh kelyn, Lithuanian klevas (a maple)

kombous=katnik,zab=molars; acc. pl.
*gombh- (a ledge) from PIE base *mel- "to rub, grind" ; from PIE *gombhos, from base *gembh- "to bite, tooth" ;
cUttai,
...etc....

Sources:

1. Neroznak, V. Paleo-Balkan languages. Moscow, 1978.
2. Katicic, R. Ancient Languages of the Balkans. The Hague, 1976.
3. Fasmer, M. The Etymological Dictionary of the Russian Language. Moscow, 1986.

notes:
RED:ANCIENT MACEDONIAN
BOLD:MODERN MACEDONIAN
BLUE:SANSKRIT
Nonsens:The Macedonian language was a part of the PIE languages.
From the Translations we see that there`s some words that don`t belong to the PIE languages
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I think that some people are confused!
The Macedonian language was a part of "the PIE languages".
Some people say that Macedonian is a South Slavic language,although almost all words of the Macedonians (Ancient) were Slavic.
Is there any reason to believe that the Macedonian (ancient and modern) language was Slavic?


Last edited by anaveno on 27 Mar 2009 06:40, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: SANSKRT IN SLOVENŠČINA
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2009 06:39 
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Many linguists have accepted the common origin of Indo-European Languages
(Sanskrit, Ancient and Modern Macedonian) and we will find a lot of proof about it.

What is not known?

Sanskrt Slovensko Angleško
lubh, lubhati ljubiti to desire greatly
smi, smayati smejati se to smile
bhi, bhayate bati se to fear
priyatva prijatelj beloved
resh, reshate režati se to howl
ajijivat oživeti restore to life
jna, janati znati to know
ru, rauti rjuti to roar, cry aloud
pricchya priča to be asked or inquire after
tap, tapati topiti destroy by heat
div, divyati divjati to play, sport, joke
stu, staviti slaviti to praise, extol
stava slave praise, eulogy
dur duri door
veša veža house entrance, lobby
var varuh water, pond, protector
klath klati to hurt, kill
krath, krathati krotiti to hurt
klav, klavate klavrn be afraid
vah, vahshyati voziti to transport, to convey
bhiyas bojazen fear
jiv, jivati živeti to live
bhaga bog lord, supreme power
da, dati dati to give
trai, trayati trajati to protect
budh, budhi buditi to wake
bes, besati bežati to go
i, eti iti to go, flow
vasin važen having power/authority
vid, vedati vedeti to know
bhavaat bivati being, present
sudayati soditi to settle
vasa vas abode (bivališče)
vas, vasati vasovati to dwell, live
dam/dama dom house, home
kota koča shed, hut
var varuh water, pond, protector
ghora gorje horror
sthanu, sthalnu stalno stationary, firm
hima zima snow, cold, winter
day, dayate dajati to give
agni ogenj fire
curu črv intestinal worm
cit, cetati čutiti to perceive, care for
math, mathati motiti to trouble, disturb
han, ghnate gnati to strike, beat
oshta usta lip
karpata krpa patch, rag
hod, hodati hoditi to go
svit, svetate svetiti bright, white
tama tema night
bal, balate boleti to hurt
prabudh, prabudyate prebuditi to wake up
man, manyati meniti to think
hita hiter running, speeding
bru, braviti praviti to speak, say
kas, kasate kašljati to cough
kup, kupyati kipeti swell, boil with emotion
mata mati mother
tata ata, tata father
sunu sin son
bhrata brat brother
vidhava vdova widow
........................

I think that some people are confused!
The Macedonian language was a part of "the PIE languages".
Some people say that Macedonian is a South Slavic language,although almost all words of the Macedonians (Ancient) were Slavic.
Is there any reason to believe that the Macedonian (ancient and modern) language was Slavic?


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 Post subject: Re: Macedonian Language_Macedonian Glossary ("ancient")
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2009 21:22 
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This sort of discussion is over most of our heads. It should be presented to expert and non-prejudiced linguists who have some chance of understanding it.


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 Post subject: Re: Macedonian Language_Macedonian Glossary ("ancient")
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2009 05:46 
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But what if we have cold heads?
For example,we all know about Ismail.
And they all say that his name comes from the words of shame = he heard.
When I was small, and everyone would say “listen”-slushaj.
and I heard-slusnav shum kako shame.
slushame a?

Then I started float (plovilo= ploio-πλοίο) clean waters.
I then saw Homer, who gave me a new direction.
Why Homer?

And he is the same age as Moses.
And then wet Moses, said that the word anoint = mashah (hebrew). Pomazanik,namazan,namackan.
I am mazajki ajvar to Leb i remember is this.
Or..
Moses like mOstar= manner; sample, specimen
Or…
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Moses
or..
mes=sheep, ewe
mesa like messiah,like Lamb of God

Ancient Macedonians (Pelasgians) and we don`t fall from Mars.

Bukefal=bhUkala=m. a restive horse L.
Koine before Hellenes?
Coincidence?….

Kitap= kitAppu =1. title of a book; 2. Book
Pamuk=pambagen[-yn']= (made of) cotton.
Turkish before turks ?…
coincidence?….

I can specify how many hundreds of leather, thousands of such examples, and if someone says that it is a coincidence, or folly, then he is a greater Pope than the Pope.


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 Post subject: Re: Macedonian Language_Macedonian Glossary ("ancient")
PostPosted: 07 Apr 2009 02:24 
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Knowledge is only as powerful as your use of it and when it is something that must be known widely, then its' presentation is what makes it effective.

Perhaps providing a more lay-man introduction into what is being discussed here, before going completely technical and listing tabular data would be useful.

Presentation of information is what makes it effective.

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